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KQ FY 2016 operating loss down to 4bn; net loss record (26.2bn)
Swenani
#31 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:25:48 AM
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Obiero, you're in my thoughts in this trying times....
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
maka
#32 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:29:48 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Obiero, you're in my thoughts in this trying times....


I also pity the new COO first day and he is met with this crap...
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ArrestedDev
#33 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:31:53 AM
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maka wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
In plain(wanjiku) language, can the fundies tell wazuans how KQ makes these phenomenon losses.

1. Is it that people are not flying?
2. Is it that they have excess employees who are paid lots of money?
3. Is it that Jet A-1 is very expensive?
4. Is it they are paying more parking fess at the destinations they land/operate?
5. Is it the interest charged on previous loans?

What is the issue with KQ in leihman language?


It's being run by a clueless guy who is bothered by such minor things like Koffi Olomide was not met and throws tantrums about it...I don't why the bugger cannot resign.


You are very right. He is a just a petty individual. He is the one who destroyed the product and he can't be the same guy to build/redeem it.
moneydust
#34 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:34:15 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Obiero, you're in my thoughts in this trying times....

My thoughts too for one Obiero..
Swenani
#35 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:36:33 AM
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The loss also saw the national carrier set a new record in wiping out shareholders’ equity, with the company’s net worth now at a negative Sh35.6 billion from the previous negative Sh5.9 billion...
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
ArrestedDev
#36 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:36:54 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Is this 26B Net loss or Gross loss?
I feel the press is misquoting ndugu @obiero.




Suppose assets were not sold imagine how wider the loss would have been!


I am now forced to revise my target entry price of 2/- bob downwards to 50 cents coz the loss territory still remains in the next couple of years.


I suspect that part of the other income was not booked under FY 15/16 and will be shown under FY 16/17 since not all the deals/transactions were closed before March 16. It will have an impact on the half FY 16/17 results. Many people will think it is an improved performance.
sparkly
#37 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:43:33 AM
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KQ investors misled by these two common psychological traps (Hello @Obiero)

Source: Investopedia

Quote:


DEFINITION of 'Superiority Trap'

A psychological or behavioral trap that leads people to believe that they have superior skill in some areas. The superiority trap can be a dangerous delusion in the stock market, since investors who believe their investment prowess is superior to that of others may end up losing a lot of money. One way of avoiding this trap is through retaining a sense of humility, rather than hubris. An oft-cited example of the superiority trap is the fact that the overwhelming majority of people think they are above-average drivers, which is a contradiction in itself.

DEFINITION of 'Sunk Cost Trap'

The tendency of people to irrationally follow through on an activity that is not meeting their expectations because of the time and/or money they have already spent on it. The sunk cost trap explains why people finish movies they aren’t enjoying, finish meals that taste bad, hold on to investments that are underperforming and keep clothes in their closet that they’ve never worn. The sunk cost trap is also called the Concorde fallacy after the failed supersonic Concorde jet program that funding governments insisted on completing despite the jet’s poor outlook.

Individuals, businesses and governments fall into the sunk cost trap when they base their decisions on past behavior and a desire to not waste the time or money they have already spent, instead of cutting their losses and making the decision that would give them the best outcome going forward. People are reluctant to admit, even to themselves, that they have wasted resources on a past decision. Changing directions is viewed, perhaps only subconsciously, as admitting failure. As a result, people tend to stay the course or even invest additional resources in a bad decision in a futile attempt to make their initial decision seem worthwhile.
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maka
#38 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:56:18 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Is this 26B Net loss or Gross loss?
I feel the press is misquoting ndugu @obiero.




Suppose assets were not sold imagine how wider the loss would have been!


I am now forced to revise my target entry price of 2/- bob downwards to 50 cents coz the loss territory still remains in the next couple of years.


I suspect that part of the other income was not booked under FY 15/16 and will be shown under FY 16/17 since not all the deals/transactions were closed before March 16. It will have an impact on the half FY 16/17 results. Many people will think it is an improved performance.



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mlennyma
#39 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:58:40 AM
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Obiero in the house! !Let's all stand up!!!
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
maka
#40 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:02:52 AM
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@Obiero sasa...
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