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Rwanda dumps Kenya SGR route for Tanzania
Taurrus
#31 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:49:31 PM
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Nasikia hii SGR ni kama hii ninino ingine wanapanua kidogo tuu!
innairobi
#32 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:32:29 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
[quote=Jitahidi]President Kagame wondered why Uganda was giving priority to developing an SGR connection to South Sudan, which is yet to become an EAC member, at the expense of Kigali, which has all along been proactive in promoting the regional project.

“The thinking was that in both economic and financial terms, because of the challenging terrain south of Bihanga and distance to Mirama hills, Uganda would be required to shoulder a bigger financial burden than Rwanda to develop this connection and yet at the end of the day we would have to share Rwanda bound traffic with Tanzania,” said an official familiar with the deal.
Link http://www.theeastafrica.../-/h70khiz/-/index.html[/quote]

Everyone other than @Jitahidi has turned this small bump into a grand pity party.

The truth is that UG has refused to prioritize the Railway line btn Kigali and Kampala, leaving Rwanda to huff and puff due to the snub. Off course here, we think its always about us.

I could be wrong but I think there is no railway line btn Rwanda and TZ? so why abandon a ready line to chase dreams.

Anyway, the SGR will be fully utilized serving Kenya (I read somewhere it will increase cargo capacity by only 30%), we don't even need Rwanda and UG cargo.

Ug and Rwanda will also still use the Mombasa port for the bulk of their goods coz Tanzanians are notoriously inefficient when it comes to service.

PS. Uhuru had better wake up and catch with Magufuli, I do believe Rwanda and Ug are just opting to work with a more committed business oriented leader. They will offcourse invite our back slapping happy go lucky leader for parties and inaugrations as usual.


well said Obi. for the past decade or more, the majority of rwanda's cargo already passes through tanzania. despite that, the gap in cargo volumes between mombasa and dar ports has only continued to grow. mombasa is leaving dar even further behind. rwanda is just 1% of mombasa cargo and will never be a game-changing customer of mombasa no matter how many SGRs from mombasa to kigali we build. we have to avoid jumping at every half-baked, semi-researched news headline and drawing apocalyptic conclusions from here to jupiter lol.
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innairobi
#33 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:48:11 PM
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a mostly junk article from jaindi which is sad since he is considered one of kenya's better journalists. for example,

"In terms of the volumes of traded goods on the Northern Corridor, Rwanda represents only 8 per cent compared to 39 per cent for Uganda."

since when was rwanda responsible for 8% of cargo through the northern corridor? and uganda 39%? rwanda would be lucky to surpass 1%.

"We decided to experiment with an experienced private international port operator working at very high standards of efficiency. However, tenderpreneurs scuttled everything, the upshot of which was that we have now handed the facility to the Kenya Ports Authority."

for several years now the container port at dar es salaam is run by hph, possibly the largest port operator on the planet. they dont come more international than that. yet dar is still less efficient than the kpa-operated mombasa. africans have such an inferiority complex even on mundane stuff we can easily do ourselves. instead, we are hyper-excited to have some third-rate mzungu running it just so we can show we have now gone international lol.
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masukuma
#34 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:07:20 PM
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Alba wrote:

All these are driven by our tribal voting. As Kenyans we have decided not to hold elected leaders accountable for anything. So these elected leaders are not inclined to solve real problems. Their job is to build and maintain tribal blocs.

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#35 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:08:32 PM
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innairobi wrote:


a mostly junk article from jaindi which is sad since he is considered one of kenya's better journalists. for example,

"In terms of the volumes of traded goods on the Northern Corridor, Rwanda represents only 8 per cent compared to 39 per cent for Uganda."

since when was rwanda responsible for 8% of cargo through the northern corridor? and uganda 39%? rwanda would be lucky to surpass 1%.

"We decided to experiment with an experienced private international port operator working at very high standards of efficiency. However, tenderpreneurs scuttled everything, the upshot of which was that we have now handed the facility to the Kenya Ports Authority."

for several years now the container port at dar es salaam is run by hph, possibly the largest port operator on the planet. they dont come more international than that. yet dar is still less efficient than the kpa-operated mombasa. africans have such an inferiority complex even on mundane stuff we can easily do ourselves. instead, we are hyper-excited to have some third-rate mzungu running it just so we can show we have now gone international lol.

Laughing out loudly but in honesty is there a 'best/better journalist in kenya'
murchr
#36 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:51:56 PM
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innairobi wrote:


a mostly junk article from jaindi which is sad since he is considered one of kenya's better journalists. for example,

"In terms of the volumes of traded goods on the Northern Corridor, Rwanda represents only 8 per cent compared to 39 per cent for Uganda."

since when was rwanda responsible for 8% of cargo through the northern corridor? and uganda 39%? rwanda would be lucky to surpass 1%.

"We decided to experiment with an experienced private international port operator working at very high standards of efficiency. However, tenderpreneurs scuttled everything, the upshot of which was that we have now handed the facility to the Kenya Ports Authority."

for several years now the container port at dar es salaam is run by hph, possibly the largest port operator on the planet. they dont come more international than that. yet dar is still less efficient than the kpa-operated mombasa. africans have such an inferiority complex even on mundane stuff we can easily do ourselves. instead, we are hyper-excited to have some third-rate mzungu running it just so we can show we have now gone international lol.


Well said
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murchr
#37 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:03:08 PM
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theEastAfrican wrote:
Kenya is mulling terminating the standard gauge railway (SGR) in Naivasha or Kisumu after Rwanda pulled out of the flagship infrastructure project on the Northern Corridor................................................Uganda, which is the top transit destination of Mombasa port cargo, has not build even as single inch of its section of SGR, putting pressure on Rwanda instead.


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Swenani
#38 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:07:53 PM
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murchr wrote:
theEastAfrican wrote:
Kenya is mulling terminating the standard gauge railway (SGR) in Naivasha or Kisumu after Rwanda pulled out of the flagship infrastructure project on the Northern Corridor................................................Uganda, which is the top transit destination of Mombasa port cargo, has not build even as single inch of its section of SGR, putting pressure on Rwanda instead.




That will be a stupid move, unless of course we are planning to use ships to ship goods to UG and DRC, It's better if it terminates at either Busia or Malaba
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murchr
#39 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:13:41 PM
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Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
theEastAfrican wrote:
Kenya is mulling terminating the standard gauge railway (SGR) in Naivasha or Kisumu after Rwanda pulled out of the flagship infrastructure project on the Northern Corridor................................................Uganda, which is the top transit destination of Mombasa port cargo, has not build even as single inch of its section of SGR, putting pressure on Rwanda instead.




That will be a stupid move, unless of course we are planning to use ships to ship goods to UG and DRC, It's better if it terminates at either Busia or Malaba


Yes, thats the plan, transport cargo by ship to Rwanda since M7 is not committed to build his section of the Rail
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Taurrus
#40 Posted : Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:56:12 PM
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Why not terminate it at Turkana?
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