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masukuma wrote:Nandwa wrote:Comoros jumps into the frayQuote:Moroni (Comoros) (AFP) - Indian Ocean archipelago and Saudi Arabia ally the Comoros said it had cut diplomatic relations with Iran over what it termed Tehran's "aggression" towards Riyadh.
A foreign ministry statement said the Comoros viewed Tehran as "interfering" in "the internal affairs of certain countries" and "not respecting diplomatic conventions". Comoros is in the league of Arab states.. the most southern country in the league. Hehe. Kumbe the "chihuahua" has decided to also bark, and make its presence known?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Hata Somalia ndani!!These seem to be efforts to preserve "protect" and advance the cause of their faiths by any means possible.Quote:Abedini is an American and a former Muslim who converted to Christianity in 2000. While Christianity is recognized as a minority religion under the Iranian constitution,[3] Muslim converts to Christianity suffer discrimination at the hands of Iranian authorities. In particular, such converts are disallowed from worshipping with other Christians in established Christian churches, which has led to the establishment of so-called "house" or "underground" churches where these converts can worship together. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Iran: Saudis face 'divine revenge' for executing al-NimrIran Preparing For Armageddon? Islamic Republic Backs Shiites In Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan And YemenQuote:Iran has prepared almost 200,000 young men in countries across the Middle East to help with the arrival of the Mahdi, a Muslim leader who will usher in justice prior to the Day of Judgment, a Revolutionary Guard commander said earlier this week. Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari said recent violence across the region, including the rise of the Islamic State group, was a sign the arrival of the messianic Muslim leader was imminent, the Turkish newspaper Daily Sabah reported.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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All said and done matters seem to be coming to, who is more restrictive. For while Shias ban the use of the word ‘wine’ to stop ‘Western cultural onslaught’the Sunnis want to ban the game of chessDunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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How interesting! As a move to keep the Shiite under check, Sunnis are embracing Israel!Quote:While the U.S. is pressing Israel to make peace with Palestinian leaders, it is missing the much bigger story of the Jewish State improving relations with several Muslim nations in the Middle East, according to a top Israeli official.
Outlining the fast-developing relationship between Israel and other Sunni states in the region, including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey, the official went beyond earlier comments by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and expressed Israel’s dismay at U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
“We have the chance now to make a coalition with Saudi Arabia, North African states, the Gulf States, and Turkey,” Ayoob Kara, Israel’s deputy minister for regional cooperation, told FoxNews.com. “We need the U.S. with us, but … they first want the Palestinians to become partners with Israel. We could be waiting another 50 years. Why do we have to wait?”
The force driving Israel and Sunni Muslim nations together is Iran, the Shia Muslim power that constantly reiterates its official goal of wiping Israel off the map. Israel has long been wary of Iran, and the recently implemented nuclear inspection deal that dropped international sanctions and freed up more than $100 billion in assets for Tehran has given its Sunni adversaries cause for concern.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Saudi Arabia's diplomatic interests in Iran to be handled by Switzerland!!!Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Shia versus Sunni is just a lie to keep people busy. http://www.theguardian.c...ia-iran-alliance-enemies
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Many people are so naive and ignorant. I always tell "them" (people here) that this is POLITICS and POWER. But they don't want to find out facts anymore. All they want is gossip and rumour and mudslinging... And they eagerly go to those sycophants sites. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.
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AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right? @Burglar, chop what? You just confirmed the quote, by posting " ...based upon prior presuppositions" 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right? @Burglar, chop what? You just confirmed the quote, by posting " ...based upon prior presuppositions" Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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AlphDoti wrote:Many people are so naive and ignorant. I always tell "them" (people here) that this is POLITICS and POWER. But they don't want to find out facts anymore. All they want is gossip and rumour and mudslinging... And they eagerly go to those sycophants sites. Petro-IslamQuote:The type of Islam favored by petroleum-exporting Muslim-majority countries, particularly the other Gulf monarchies (United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, etc.)—not just Saudi Arabia. WahhabismAlliance with the House of Saud wrote:The ruler of nearby town, Muhammad ibn Saud, invited ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab to join him, and in 1744 a pact was made between the two. Ibn Saud would protect and propagate the doctrines of the Wahhabi mission, while ibn Abdul Wahhab "would support the ruler, supplying him with 'glory and power.'" Whoever championed his message, ibn Abdul Wahhab promised, "will, by means of it, rule the lands and men."
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The alliance between the Wahhabi mission and Al Saud family has "endured for more than two and half centuries," surviving defeat and collapse. The two families have intermarried multiple times over the years and in today's Saudi Arabia, the minister of religion is always a member of the Al ash-Sheikh family (i.e. a descendent of Ibn Abdul Wahhab). Quote:But it was the 1973 oil crisis and quadrupling in the price of oil that both increased the kingdom's wealth astronomically and enhanced its prestige by demonstrating its international power as a leader of OPEC. By 1980, Saudi Arabia was earning every three days the income from oil it had taken a year to earn before the embargo. Tens of billions of dollars of this money were spent on books, media, schools, scholarships for students (from primary to post-graduate), fellowships and subsidies to reward journalists, academics and Islamic scholars, the building of hundreds of Islamic centers and universities, and over one thousand schools and one thousand mosques. German vice-chancellor accuses Saudi Arabia of funding Islamic extremism in the WestQuote:“We have to make clear to the Saudis that the time of looking away is over,” Mr Gabriel told Bild am Sonntag newspaper in an interview.
“Wahhabi mosques all over the world are financed by Saudi Arabia. Many Islamists who are a threat to public safety come from these communities in Germany.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right? @Burglar, chop what? You just confirmed the quote, by posting " ...based upon prior presuppositions" Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests. Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft. I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft? NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right? @Burglar, chop what? You just confirmed the quote, by posting " ...based upon prior presuppositions" Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests. Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft. I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft? NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION. Koran presupposes it has the answer to theft and offers a superficial suggestion that it insists is a solution. Because for one born without hands and has become adept in using other things, theft is still possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Quote:The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion. Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right? @Burglar, chop what? You just confirmed the quote, by posting " ...based upon prior presuppositions" Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests. Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft. I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft? NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION. Koran presupposes it has the answer to theft and offers a superficial suggestion that it insists is a solution. Because for one born without hands and has become adept in using other things, theft is still possible. Haha!
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