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kaka2za
#31 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 12:21:07 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Let's us agree to disagree on whether the policemen should have talked to the press or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Let us discuss the issues that were raised. Forget who and how they were raised. Let us discuss the situation on the ground.

Otherwise we will be like the police spokesman who totally ignored the issues and focused on secondary things like "gazetted" members talking to the press, patriotism bla bla bla.


You still don't get it do you?
In the disciplined forces the issue of who and how can be a matter of life and death.
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Wrong forever on the throne
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Gathige
#32 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 12:36:27 PM
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When all is said and done, we all have a responsibility to build our country.Until the day all we wazuans posting here send our kids to join the police force and make a mark, nothing will change.

If you have ever tried to reason with a Kenyan policeman/woman, you know how daft they are. When we entrust our security to such folks, be very very worried. They will even pass intelligence to alshabab for a coin. Some are clueless what 'disciplined force' means, yet they are in it.
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masukuma
#33 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 12:56:53 PM
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Gathige wrote:
When all is said and done, we all have a responsibility to build our country.Until the day all we wazuans posting here send our kids to join the police force and make a mark, nothing will change.

If you have ever tried to reason with a Kenyan policeman/woman, you know how daft they are. When we entrust our security to such folks, be very very worried. They will even pass intelligence to alshabab for a coin. Some are clueless what 'disciplined force' means, yet they are in it.

I kinda feel like we have been down this road before!!
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tycho
#34 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 1:02:46 PM
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There are soldiers up on the Himalayas at the border between India and Pakistan and conditions are harsh. I once heard that the Indian army was interested in developing techniques that would allow an officer to survive without eating for some days, and still maintain fighting strength.

Generally war front conditions are harsh, and expected to be harsh. An on condition vehicle is an important target, a water tank even if it's provided will be perforated with bullets. . .

The issue here is that the officers are under psychological strain and that's probably why they accepted to run along the ntv reporters. My hope is that the government will take more effort in providing mental health care for these combatants, rather than punish them. And even more important, find peaceful means for dealing with political conflict.

tycho
#35 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 1:09:36 PM
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Gathige wrote:
When all is said and done, we all have a responsibility to build our country.Until the day all we wazuans posting here send our kids to join the police force and make a mark, nothing will change.

If you have ever tried to reason with a Kenyan policeman/woman, you know how daft they are. When we entrust our security to such folks, be very very worried. They will even pass intelligence to alshabab for a coin. Some are clueless what 'disciplined force' means, yet they are in it.


One will reason best with the police along the constraints of the law and political clout, and the police aren't so daft in this regard.

I fear the raia perspective is out of touch with the messy reality of politics.
Robinhood
#36 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 1:49:08 PM
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Until we have thorough security services reforms, we will always have this kind of thing. No body cares
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Othelo
#37 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 1:56:00 PM
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Utumishi kwa wote. I will always remember this thread when kebab shit happens!!! Not that i want it to happen!
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Mike Ock
#38 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 3:05:58 PM
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Only those who have never entered in a police cell will be shocked by this story. For me, mwenye nimeingizwa ndani mara mbili, this is no news
MaichBlack
#39 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 3:20:07 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Let's us agree to disagree on whether the policemen should have talked to the press or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Let us discuss the issues that were raised. Forget who and how they were raised. Let us discuss the situation on the ground.

Otherwise we will be like the police spokesman who totally ignored the issues and focused on secondary things like "gazetted" members talking to the press, patriotism bla bla bla.


You still don't get it do you?
In the disciplined forces the issue of who and how can be a matter of life and death.

You are the one who doesn't get it!!!

The issue here is, is the government doing enough to facilitate police to protect our country?

Let's not waste precious time discussing red tape and protocols. They might be important but that is not what we are interested in here. It is like a son running away from school, gets home finds the father sleeping with the house girl and tells the mother pap! And then the father keeps insisting that what should be discussed is the son running away from school yet he was found butt naked with the house gir!!!
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freiks
#40 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 3:50:16 PM
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Joined: 6/8/2010
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MaichBlack wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Let's us agree to disagree on whether the policemen should have talked to the press or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Let us discuss the issues that were raised. Forget who and how they were raised. Let us discuss the situation on the ground.

Otherwise we will be like the police spokesman who totally ignored the issues and focused on secondary things like "gazetted" members talking to the press, patriotism bla bla bla.


You still don't get it do you?
In the disciplined forces the issue of who and how can be a matter of life and death.

You are the one who doesn't get it!!!

The issue here is, is the government doing enough to facilitate police to protect our country?

Let's not waste precious time discussing red tape and protocols. They might be important but that is not what we are interested in here. It is like a son running away from school, gets home finds the father sleeping with the house girl and tells the mother pap! And then the father keeps insisting that what should be discussed is the son running away from school yet he was found butt naked with the house gir!!!

@maichblack si ukuwe prezzo upatie polisi hizo vitu na uweke thermal detectors venye Larry alisema
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