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Uchumi CEO & CFO fired.......
enyands
#61 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 6:48:06 PM
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murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.
murchr
#62 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 6:57:10 PM
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enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.


This is a public listed company and the GOK has shareholding of 14.6 per cent.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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watesh
#63 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 7:15:31 PM
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People are taken to Kamiti for tweeting while thieves who openly break the law and loot billions still walk around.
Othelo
#64 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 7:15:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.


This is a public listed company and the GOK has shareholding of 14.6 per cent.

So many months on since getting the sack, the thieves must have had a headway and now are now busy re-arranging their portfolios and hiding stolen funds wherever. Eating mentality is now a cancer and a national issue for the country!!!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
murchr
#65 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 7:20:17 PM
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Othelo wrote:
murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.


This is a public listed company and the GOK has shareholding of 14.6 per cent.

So many months on since getting the sack, the thieves must have had a headway and now are now busy re-arranging their portfolios and hiding stolen funds wherever. Eating mentality is now a cancer and a national issue for the country!!!


If Kipng'etich knows that the managers were running parallel shops....what else is there to be said?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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enyands
#66 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 8:07:27 PM
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murchr wrote:
Othelo wrote:
murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.


This is a public listed company and the GOK has shareholding of 14.6 per cent.

So many months on since getting the sack, the thieves must have had a headway and now are now busy re-arranging their portfolios and hiding stolen funds wherever. Eating mentality is now a cancer and a national issue for the country!!!


If Kipng'etich knows that the managers were running parallel shops....what else is there to be said?



You mean these guys can do such with no one questioning them. It's terrible
Impunity
#67 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 8:37:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


When I heard the name Ciano in 2006 I thought he was from Zambia,kumbe he was "these people"?

@Mawinder,what is his middle name again?
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Arconnrk
#68 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2016 8:50:32 PM
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murchr wrote:
enyands wrote:
murchr wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Hapana , I think we need national dialogue on corruption. Things went out of hand long time ago !!!!!

http://www.the-star.co.k...pplier-new-ceo_c1285770


^^^^^^^
Quote:
SACKED Uchumi CEO Jonathan Ciano was the major supplier of fresh produce to the retailer's outlets and always paid himself before other suppliers, the firm's new boss has revealed.

Detailing the massive fraud that he has so far unearthed from the company's records, new CEO Julius Kipng'etich said several other Uchumi managers were running parallel shops which they may have been stocking with items stolen from the retailer's stores.

"Nobody knew the extent of the loss before, even me. I based my decision to come work here on the half year results which showed the firm had a loss of Sh262 million and I thought at the time this was easy to turn around...I looked at the track record of the firm based on the accounts and felt it would be easy to turn it around, until I arrived here and started digging further," Kipng'etich told the Star in an interview.

"I realised this company was in a deep hole,
" he said.

Supplier debt, preliminary investigations show, was severely under-stated at Sh750 million yet it stands at Sh2.2 billion. This has raised questions over whereabouts of the Sh500 million loan the firm got last year to help settle dues owed to suppliers.



So what stops the Asset Recovery team from freezing these directors and CEO's Assets or they are waiting to be told?


I guess they don't want to meddle with private companies as long as they aren't public servant offices of the sort. Never heard this guy's going after non government employees.


This is a public listed company and the GOK has shareholding of 14.6 per cent.


the Asset Recovery Agency can get involved here whether the 'victim' is in private or public sector- the question is whether there is a reasonable grounds to believe that the assets are proceeds of crime (it doesn't even have to be corruption related offences). And the criminal element is present here given the alleged false accounting and theft by managers engaged in 'planting seeds' with Uchumi goods.

But Uchumi may want to avoid Asset Recovery Agency because even if successful, the forfeited property passes first to the government before getting to Uchumi (if at all). Also the battered Uchumi brand will suffer another 3 or more years of creditors, suppliers and customers discussing 'The Uchumi Scandal' especially after the previous problems involving the DJ and crew that required GoK bailout.

Pure speculation but they might take the Britam way- chase after the former employees on their own and freeze their assets to 'encourage' an out of court settlement.

The problem is if the false accounting/theft took place for over 8 years, finding the relevant assets and linking them to the misconduct after they've possibly changed hands severally can take a while.

Just look at the problems GoK had gathering up NYS-linked assets that were scattered amongst friends, cucus and business associates of suspects- and that was just a year or two ago when the wizi took place.
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kayhara
#69 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2016 5:16:46 PM
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@PeterMutegi: Uchumi has reported a loss (before tax) of Sh1 billion for the 6 months to Dec, a dip from a Sh262.4 million loss in HY 2014. Cc @BD_Africa.
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Plimsoul
#70 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 6:37:16 PM
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Hello all. New user here. Given that Uchumi now has a negative equity value after the latest results, what is does the CMA say about that? I remember in 2006 the management asked for suspension because of this technical insolvency.
maka
#71 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 6:27:30 AM
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enyands wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


He is a lucky man. if he was in America he would have followed the Enron former CEO jailed for life.if he was in China they would have executed him. Kenya we praise his name for being rich and offer him endorsement for mpigish job at parliament. Shafting continues ......



Crazy..
http://www.nation.co.ke/...30/-/st86c1/-/index.html
possunt quia posse videntur
Spikes
#72 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:33:17 AM
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maka wrote:
enyands wrote:
[quote=Othelo]Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


He is a lucky man. if he was in America he would have followed the Enron former CEO jailed for life.if he was in China they would have executed him. Kenya we praise his name for being rich and offer him endorsement for mpigish job at parliament. Shafting continues ......



Crazy..
http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/st86c1/-/index.html[/quote]


Only in Kenya the oppressed praises the oppressor!!!!
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enyands
#73 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:18:21 AM
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Spikes wrote:
maka wrote:
enyands wrote:
[quote=Othelo]Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


He is a lucky man. if he was in America he would have followed the Enron former CEO jailed for life.if he was in China they would have executed him. Kenya we praise his name for being rich and offer him endorsement for mpigish job at parliament. Shafting continues ......



Crazy..
http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/st86c1/-/index.html[/quote]


Only in Kenya the oppressed praises the oppressor!!!!


I feel like vomiting when I see people like this being given other lucrative positions like chairman of kenya accountants .where is his conscience when he is picking up this position? How do his children feel when papa is addressed as a thief? Do such people walk with their heads up? Munisaidie kuwaza haya
whiteowl
#74 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:32:02 AM
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enyands wrote:
Spikes wrote:
maka wrote:
enyands wrote:
[quote=Othelo]Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


He is a lucky man. if he was in America he would have followed the Enron former CEO jailed for life.if he was in China they would have executed him. Kenya we praise his name for being rich and offer him endorsement for mpigish job at parliament. Shafting continues ......



Crazy..
http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/st86c1/-/index.html[/quote]


Only in Kenya the oppressed praises the oppressor!!!!


I feel like vomiting when I see people like this being given other lucrative positions like chairman of kenya accountants .where is his conscience when he is picking up this position? How do his children feel when papa is addressed as a thief? Do such people walk with their heads up? Munisaidie kuwaza haya


And all those appearances on rich. Very inspirational Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
kryptonite
#75 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:39:43 AM
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Othelo wrote:
Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


There might not have been a turnaround at all, just creative accounting
The harder you work, the luckier you get
VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:20:50 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
enyands wrote:
Spikes wrote:
maka wrote:
enyands wrote:
[quote=Othelo]Poor Ciano, i wish he left after the turn around. Anyway he will survive, this is Kenya. I remember his many talks in good governance, leadership and management, compliance kumbe smile


He is a lucky man. if he was in America he would have followed the Enron former CEO jailed for life.if he was in China they would have executed him. Kenya we praise his name for being rich and offer him endorsement for mpigish job at parliament. Shafting continues ......



Crazy..
http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/st86c1/-/index.html[/quote]


Only in Kenya the oppressed praises the oppressor!!!!


I feel like vomiting when I see people like this being given other lucrative positions like chairman of kenya accountants .where is his conscience when he is picking up this position? How do his children feel when papa is addressed as a thief? Do such people walk with their heads up? Munisaidie kuwaza haya


And all those appearances on rich. Very inspirational Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


If you see a CEO on RICH more than 3 times... Naikuni, Ciano. And nowadays Oigara...
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ForSport2
#77 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:22:28 AM
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Someone has presented a petition to wind up uchumi. Today's daily nation
maka
#78 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2016 9:13:42 PM
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Wamepatikana...

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streetwise
#79 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44:26 PM
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Next MSC thiefs
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#80 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2016 9:46:30 PM
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This is not stiff enough..... No jail time Sad Sad Sad
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