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The Great Wall of Kenya...
butterflyke
#31 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 1:57:07 AM
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innairobi wrote:
It wont help a thing as far as terrorism goes because the terrorist ideology is already within Kenya. Can only help address illegal border crossings.

If I read correctly, Saudi Arabia buried sensors along their border with Yemen that would alert them of any person crossing. But must be expensive technology.


Interesting idea but along the Kenya - Somalia border, they would be beeping right from installation time and then dug out to be used as scrap metal Sad
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Muriel
#32 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 9:23:01 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Kihara joni wrote:
I was just thinking, why not do things differently, instead of a wall dig a trench 30 feet deep 30 feet wide na mchanga on our side then flood it.
the 30B could have a better thing than a wall.



Pahali pa ukame kama huko huoni maji yakiwa mvuto kwao?

'We' want to repel them, not attract them.


We can flood the trenches with sewage and industrial effluent!


If you promise to weld a strong pipeline to convey the said fluids, you might be given a hearing.
AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 11:25:04 AM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Shak wrote:
kiash wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Kihara joni wrote:
I was just thinking, why not do things differently, instead of a wall dig a trench 30 feet deep 30 feet wide na mchanga on our side then flood it.
the 30B could have a better thing than a wall.

Pahali pa ukame kama huko huoni maji yakiwa mvuto kwao?

'We' want to repel them, not attract them.

We can flood the trenches with sewage and industrial effluent!

With this dislike for Somalis, i think they better go back home and rebuild their country.No one wants them, SA, Kenya and more doing it huko chini chini.

These days the sight of a somali sends me in the opposite direction

@kiash and @Shak actually, Somalis were here in Kenya before your fore-fathers and not every Somali is is evil. What do you say about that?

Before you became a Muslim, what religion was your great-great-grandfather,around the time Somali were colonizing/settling in Kenya?

@Impunity the question should be, when those Cushites arrived in Kenya, where were the Luos your great-great-grandparents?
AlphDoti
#34 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 11:31:59 AM
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kiash wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Shak wrote:
kiash wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Kihara joni wrote:
I was just thinking, why not do things differently, instead of a wall dig a trench 30 feet deep 30 feet wide na mchanga on our side then flood it.
the 30B could have a better thing than a wall.

Pahali pa ukame kama huko huoni maji yakiwa mvuto kwao?

'We' want to repel them, not attract them.

We can flood the trenches with sewage and industrial effluent!

With this dislike for Somalis, i think they better go back home and rebuild their country.No one wants them, SA, Kenya and more doing it huko chini chini.

These days the sight of a somali sends me in the opposite direction

@kiash and @Shak actually, Somalis were here in Kenya before your fore-fathers and not every Somali is is evil. What do you say about that?

Tell me some history.There are Somalis (Kenyan) and Somalis(Somalia).Every one is concerned about the latter.I have neighbours who are Somalis in my home county upcountry.

If you say the later, then I rest my case. My issue was generalization. But you can research on the history by yourself.
dunkang
#35 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 2:35:46 PM
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1. 1000km long Fence Between Saudia and Iraq (lIKE Mombasa to Marsabit).
2. 485km long Trench between Pakistan and Afghanistan (Mombasa to Nairobi).
3. 1700km long Barbed Wire Fence between Turkmenistan's border with Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan (Mombasa to Kigali via Nairobi and Kampala)
4. 120km long fence South Africa - Mozambique (Nairobi to GilGil)
5. 410km United Arab Emirates–Oman barrier (Nairobi to almost Busia)
6. 3,300km India-Burma Fence under construction (Nairobi, Kenya to Cairo, Egypt)
7. 1,500km China-Korea Fence under Construction.
8. 500km Zimbabwe-Botswana Electric Fence (Exists since 2003 (Nairobi to Marsabit)




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Alba
#36 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 5:40:52 PM
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Lots of questions need to be answered such as how safe will the construction workers be? Will they not be attacked by Al Shaytan during construction? Swali tu. Unless they only hire somalis to do the construction. Still, you may have difficulty finding construction workers intrepid enough to take this task. My take is that govt should be more discrete and not announce any plans to Al Shaytan. Also, a trench seems to make more sense.
Kihara joni
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:11:27 AM
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Just saw this on twitter, which apparently your great wall at Kiunga, is it made of wood ama this is formwork for a concrete wall?Sad Sad
Although I have doubts because I thought the green NYS heavy equipment was doing the job, VERIFY anyone?
YoungMulla
#38 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:24:23 AM
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Kihara joni wrote:

Just saw this on twitter, which apparently your great wall at Kiunga, is it made of wood ama this is formwork for a concrete wall?Sad Sad
Although I have doubts because I thought the green NYS heavy equipment was doing the job, VERIFY anyone?


No way they would build a timber wall. That would be the joke of the year internationally. AlShaytan would just pour kerosine on it and roast us on it.
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Wakanyugi
#39 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:52:18 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
That someone in the government is fronting such a dumb idea as a solution to terrorism is stupid. That they are getting audience from the government is extremely disturbing.

What type of wall will it be, a stone wall like those built around plots in Race Course estate Nakuru (where I grew up) or electric fence like the once around parks.

How will it stop terrorists from crossing over into Kenya (currently they pass through the border checkpoints by bribing cops, they ignore the 1,000 kms of open border). Will it act as a demarcation to assist the Shabab see where Kenya begins and know to keep to their side or is the thinking like "the shabab will get to the wall, try to jump over, dig under or smash through and realising that it is not possible return to Wherever they came from to report that they are unable to complete their mission"

How long will it take to construct and who will construct it be it that non Somali's in North Eastern Province are fair game for terrorists (lessons from Garrisa College massacre, Teachers and Quarry workers brutal killings)

How much will it cost and who will pay for the construction.

This JAP government, I presume they will ask Ruto to front the project just in case eggs on the faceLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Obi 1.

When I first saw this I thought it was an April fools joke. But it seems the government is actually serious about building a wall (and we pay our taxes for this?)

I predict that, if this dumb idea goes ahead, it will become the biggest corruption boondoggle Kenya has seen recently and it will not make Kenya any safer. After all Al kebab are not dumb and they know how to make ladders.

In any case, how will a wall keep out the home grown Al kebab?

Sad, especially when you consider there are smarter, cheaper and more sustainable ways of making Kenya safe.

As someone said elsewhere the problem with us Kenyans is, we just don't want to think. We want the easy options and if someone can raid the public till in the process, the better.

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Swenani
#40 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:01:05 PM
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Kihara joni wrote:

Just saw this on twitter, which apparently your great wall at Kiunga, is it made of wood ama this is formwork for a concrete wall?Sad Sad
Although I have doubts because I thought the green NYS heavy equipment was doing the job, VERIFY anyone?



The fact that you are in mombasa, you are the one nearest to Kiunga.



@Kihara, This is the wall between USA and Mexico,the photo was taken in 2009
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