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limanika
#31 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:38:10 AM
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This was a planned attack with main aim to acquier guns. One cannot rule out moles within the force who collude with bandits, then ensure success of their plans thro presiding over juniors with 'ineptitude' laced to look otherwise . How can Police in north rift, north east and coast continue to operate the way they did in 1980s. I blame nsisi. The bandits surely have a network that needs to be countered through intelligence and counterintelligence
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Nandwa
#32 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:44:49 AM
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KDF dropping bombs in Kapedo! - Standard

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Yesterday, KDF planes reportedly dropped four bombs at Kapitewoi area with reports that two Pokot herders were killed and more than 30 head of cattle killed in the process.


Witnesses said military choppers were also involved in an operation yesterday bombing sites where the attackers were said to be hiding.

The bombings took place even as elders rushed to beat the ultimatum to deliver the guns stolen from officers.

Yesterday evening, intermediaries led Kenya Red Cross Society and government officers to pick four guns which had been placed under a dry fallen acacia tree at Toplane Dam in Chesamu area near Silale hills where the bandits are suspected to be hiding.

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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jaggernaut
#33 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:43:57 AM
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Nandwa wrote:
KDF dropping bombs in Kapedo! - Standard

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Yesterday, KDF planes reportedly dropped four bombs at Kapitewoi area with reports that two Pokot herders were killed and more than 30 head of cattle killed in the process.


Witnesses said military choppers were also involved in an operation yesterday bombing sites where the attackers were said to be hiding.

The bombings took place even as elders rushed to beat the ultimatum to deliver the guns stolen from officers.

Yesterday evening, intermediaries led Kenya Red Cross Society and government officers to pick four guns which had been placed under a dry fallen acacia tree at Toplane Dam in Chesamu area near Silale hills where the bandits are suspected to be hiding.



Nice job by KDF. Bomb them out of the caves they are hiding. So the wazees surrendered only 4 guns. They must know where the rest are. Communal punishment is the way to go. This will make them think twice before killing security forces in future.
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jaggernaut
#34 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:08:48 AM
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[quote=newfarer]how could the senior police officers do this

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weren't inexperienced young boys not just sent to die?
if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad

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This is what serving in the police force entails. It's their job description. And yes, you can die any moment and therefore one should know what they are signing up to. Anyway RIP. Normally such new recruits are under the command of an experienced senior officer for any operation.

This reminds me of my jirani in shags. He won a green card to the US and once there joined the US marines. And immediately after his training he was deployed to Iraq. So can you imagine that one moment you are boozing at Nairobi west watching EPL football while in the next few months you are on the front line in Iraq fighting battle hardened terrorists? Luckily he finished his tour of duty safely and went back to the US, though thoroughly traumatized. Armies do not send their most experienced men to the battlefront ...at least at the initial stages. They save them for the last decisive moment.
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nakujua
#35 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:15:37 AM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
newfarer wrote:
how could the senior police officers do this

http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html


weren't inexperienced young boys not just send to die?
if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad


Same story at Baragoi: recent graduates. This has always been the police modus operandi. Recent graduates are posted to those hotspots, ostensibly to toughen them up. In days gone by, they'd be posted to the former NEP to battle it out with the then Somali bandits/shiftas. Very wrong approach IMO.

hakuna shida recent graduates being sent to the front line, it happens especially in open conflict areas - what lacks is proper tactical planning and better security hardware - otherwise it does not matter in security circles you obey orders without questions, ukiambiwa march into that valley - you just pick your g3 riffle and go.

Hata with experienced cops or the (marines Sad ) being surrounded like that is disastrous, without terraces or barricades to dig in and hold out the attackers, without bullet proof attire and a constant supply of ammunition to sustain a lengthy gun battle - they were doomed.
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harrydre
#36 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:25:13 AM
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McReggae wrote:
harrydre wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Curious why they didn't shoot back as the were getting surrounded? Hata wangeua kama kumi hivi?


I am curious why Kajwang sounds excited by these killings.

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What link is that, you almost always miss the big picture many at times in an argument!


It's irresponsible and lack of respect to the dead to make fun of such a situation. He should be man enough.
i.am.back!!!!
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harrydre
#37 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:46:09 AM
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Here is another one

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Robert Alai Onyango
17 hrs ·
President Uhuru Kenyatta you gave the murderers 24 hours. People have lost loved ones. How many guns have been returned? Who returned them?

It is either you are capable of leading the country or you are fumbling.

Know that 24 brave men and women have died. If they were your ethnicity, you would have sent choppers to carry their bodies but these poor men and women have been bundled into lorries for the ride to Nairobi.
i.am.back!!!!
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jaggernaut
#38 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:51:49 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Here is another one

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Robert Alai Onyango
17 hrs ·
President Uhuru Kenyatta you gave the murderers 24 hours. People have lost loved ones. How many guns have been returned? Who returned them?

It is either you are capable of leading the country or you are fumbling.

Know that 24 brave men and women have died. If they were your ethnicity, you would have sent choppers to carry their bodies but these poor men and women have been bundled into lorries for the ride to Nairobi.


This Alai idiot should just shut up .....or shutted up!
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McReggae
#39 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:59:59 PM
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"These people (Pokot) are Kalenjins and I am one of them. Kalenjins don't kill people without a reason. I don't want you to use force on these people because that will not help anything; it will only be a temporary measure!". This is Gideon Moi to Uhuru.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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ZZE123
#40 Posted : Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:19:18 PM
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McReggae wrote:
"These people (Pokot) are Kalenjins and I am one of them. Kalenjins don't kill people without a reason. I don't want you to use force on these people because that will not help anything; it will only be a temporary measure!". This is Gideon Moi to Uhuru.

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