The prophet muhammad s.a.w. told us if you see the morning don't be sure to see the evening. Prepare for death. He asked us: "swali kabla kusaliwa". "Jihesabu kabla kuhesabiwa.

So these are the realities of life. So who killed whom and why is none of man's business because one can't die before his time has come. When death comes no one can stop it.

So celebrating another's death is being naive.

Hmmm... I wonder how many more Makaburi's will emerge tomorrow preaching his shuhadaa just like was preaching Rogo's

Daily assured landing for eternity? Damn this beats the roads paved with gold. I love the gods.

And they will be shot ....then others will emerge to replace those ones, and those too will be shot. Rinse repeat ad infinitum. There will always be those who are lost in hopeless ideology, foaming at the mouth and chanting verses and there will always be dogs of war; governments reserve sole rights as legal purveyors of violence. The Kenyan one is no different. When this order is challenged, like with the foolhardy Sabaot Land Defence Force or Mungiki, swift termination with extreme prejudice follows; Not many lost sleep when they were stamped out and dumped in the forest, religious leanings not withstanding. Those without common sense should at least learn from recent history. Or fear its repeating.
Dont argue with us here pointlessly, instead, educate and enlighten your Muslim youth; Steer them away from this extremism madness;Inform them that violent fanaticism comes with a high chance to stop a bullet.

The question here is about his status as a shahid(martyr).Martyrdom which guarantees all the above is not properly defined and ranges from dying in battle to dying as a result of plague.



Allah(swt) had predesitined everything:


Whoever Allah guides - he is the [rightly] guided; and whoever He sends astray - it is those who are the losers.
And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see,
and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless.

quran 7.178 and 179

Since he had said he desired death ,that was irrelevant.


This issue of virgins needs clarification.The precise number of virgins (72 in number) doesn;'t appear in the Quran.Neither does it appear in the 3 most referenced hadiths Bukhari,Muslim or Tabari.



All we know , however is the Muumin(believer) is promised virgins and wine in Jannah(paradise).



Indeed, for the righteous is attainment,Gardens and grapevines,And full-breasted [companions] of equal age,And a full cup. Quran 78:31 onwards

Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation And made them virgins,Devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age Quran 56:35-37



Fair ones reserved in pavilions,So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? Untouched before them by man or jinni quran 55:72-74


The pavilions here are described as having limitless number of virgins:

Allah’s Apostle (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them."
Sahih Bukhari 6:60:402


However Fatwas have been issued to validate the 72 virgins hadith and so this teaching is very popular among the youth.




Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
Sunan Ibn Maja, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 3




The Holy Prophet said: 'The believer will be given such and such strength in Paradise for sexual intercourse. It was questioned: O prophet of Allah! can he do that? He said: "He will be given the strength of one hundred persons.
Mishkat al-Masabih, Book 4, Ch. 42, No. 24

"Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint.
Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing v(censored)as."
Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an,


houris=virgins


Madam admin,these are religious texts am quoting and I have no intention of malice am only giving information so that we can rest this(72 virgins) case forever on this forum.

Aya basi... If the stance is going to be a bullet for a bullet let's see who has more stamina!

I remember USA and NATO were this hard headed when they were still fresh in Afghanistan and Iraq.. 13 years later and every country is tripping over themselves to get their troops the hell out of there and I'm actually hearing talk of dialogue!

I have a feeling a few years from now Kenyans and AMISOM will be in the same boat

Mbona unaenda mbali? Remember Mungiki? Matakwei?

Muslims are irrational. Whether Kenya was in Somalia or not, muslims would still attack Kenya. It was they who threw the first punch . Funny Makaburi later twisted it to suggest that Kenya provoked muslims.

I used to be a lukewarm supporter of the Palestine cause. But now that Kenya has come under constant attack from muslim terrorists, my mood now varies between indifference to outright support for Israel.

If you look at the US for example, support for Israel and Palestine used to be 50-50. But support for Israel has spiked since 2001. It partially explains why the peace process is dead and Israel now takes Palestinian land with abandon.

http://www.gallup.com/po...oad-support-israel.aspx

These very same youth at the coast who are rioting are the ones most affected by the drop in tourism numbers they are causing. Their mentality is plain irrational.

it's not the Quran or Hadiths that give the count as 72! it's a pervert sheikh Abu Umama who also said

ati Rest in Peace? You have a perpetually erect Benis and you start resting? With wives who are so many that they don't even get to see their companions? He has probably started with the 2 houris as @shoco tells us. Haki Islam is funny bt on a serious note, we probably need to listen to guru and find a softer way out of this. You cant reason with a man who believes that after killing your kids he will get a perpetually erect Benis. This is more complicated than Mungiki or SLDF