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Insecurity in Kenya
washiku
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:07:02 PM
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maka
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:16:08 PM
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The last time my phone was stolen...and got traced being used somewherw in Kayole the cops told me I should provide transport so that we go nab the guy...
possunt quia posse videntur
washiku
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:02:13 PM
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maka wrote:


The last time my phone was stolen...and got traced being used somewherw in Kayole the cops told me I should provide transport so that we go nab the guy...


Same happened to me in Nakuru. They gave me a breakdown of the costs I was supposed to get ready with for the guys to be arrested, yet the phone was worth KES15,000, I decided wacha ikae...mara nyama, mara taxi, mara mafuta ya GK, mara I go with them to identify the thugs(yet it was robbed at gun point)....
Pierce
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:12:43 PM
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washiku wrote:
maka wrote:


The last time my phone was stolen...and got traced being used somewherw in Kayole the cops told me I should provide transport so that we go nab the guy...


Same happened to me in Nakuru. They gave me a breakdown of the costs I was supposed to get ready with for the guys to be arrested, yet the phone was worth KES15,000, I decided wacha ikae...mara nyama, mara taxi, mara mafuta ya GK, mara I go with them to identify the thugs(yet it was robbed at gun point)....


Pole sana but that bit I coun't resist...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
maka
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:14:51 PM
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Pierce wrote:
washiku wrote:
maka wrote:


The last time my phone was stolen...and got traced being used somewherw in Kayole the cops told me I should provide transport so that we go nab the guy...


Same happened to me in Nakuru. They gave me a breakdown of the costs I was supposed to get ready with for the guys to be arrested, yet the phone was worth KES15,000, I decided wacha ikae...mara nyama, mara taxi, mara mafuta ya GK, mara I go with them to identify the thugs(yet it was robbed at gun point)....


Pole sana but that bit I coun't resist...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Mi hata ukiwa na feya ntakupatia simu....
possunt quia posse videntur
Obi 1 Kanobi
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:42:47 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
Security should be everybody responsibility not government alone.


And what else do you suggest we do?

We already report crime to the cops, some of us even take the law unto our hands and burn suspected thieves and witches.

The missing bit is what the gava is doing
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
tycho
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:41:50 PM
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washiku wrote:
maka wrote:


The last time my phone was stolen...and got traced being used somewherw in Kayole the cops told me I should provide transport so that we go nab the guy...


Same happened to me in Nakuru. They gave me a breakdown of the costs I was supposed to get ready with for the guys to be arrested, yet the phone was worth KES15,000, I decided wacha ikae...mara nyama, mara taxi, mara mafuta ya GK, mara I go with them to identify the thugs(yet it was robbed at gun point)....


Many a times the cost of tracking criminals, apprehending them and recovering stolen goods are higher than the costs of buying the goods in the first place. Criminals are seldom short in their calculations, or so it seems.

To fight crime we need to raise the costs of criminal activity and increase the benefits of non criminal behavior. That is, cooperative and communal behavior must be highly rewarding.
Rankaz13
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:02:12 PM
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I knew a guy, he was a taxi driver in my neighborhood. One day he was hired by some guys who later carjacked him, locked him up in the boot, stole his phone and used his car to jail-break some criminals from a G.K prison nearby.

He later followed up in an attempt to recover his phone which was found to be in use in the coastal city of Msa. The lady found by cops in possession of the phone identified those who sold it to her who happened to be one of the gang members who had participated in the prison break.

Fellow took the cops to where the rest of the thug-colleagues were, they were arrested but as fate would have it, one allegedly 'escaped'. The arrested fellows were taken to court with the taxi driver as the main prosecution witness.

As the case dragged on in court (deliberately??), the thug who escaped began threatening the taxi driver with dire consequences if he continued on as a prosecution witness. These threats were duly reported to the judge who then ordered the OCS to provide him with security. The OCS, as expected, dragged his feet claiming these thugs were in no position to hurt our taxi driver since they were in prison anyway (and conveniently forgetting of the escapee who most probably had other accomplices).

And so it was that on one fateful day, around 11a.m. on Mashujaa Day as I recall it, as our taxi guy was at the garage having his vehicle serviced, another vehicle pulled up at the garage gate and someone he didn't recognized beckoned him to approach. As he didn't know them, he hesitated a little bit and in the split second it takes to say ng'we, three bullets were pumped into his chest and he died instantly.

The vehicle sped off and they were never caught. Needless to add, the court case, devoid of its stellar witness, crumbled into a messy pile and the fellows were all set free by the court. And that, my dear friends, is how we lost an energetic and hardworking young man whose wife is now a widow and whose child will never know the joy of taking a walk and sharing a joke with his own dad.
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Siringi
#39 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:20:44 PM
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We need an army barrack in Pokot Turkana areas to protect oil
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Kratos
#40 Posted : Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:28:38 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
I knew a guy, he was a taxi driver in my neighborhood. One day he was hired by some guys who later carjacked him, locked him up in the boot, stole his phone and used his car to jail-break some criminals from a G.K prison nearby.

He later followed up in an attempt to recover his phone which was found to be in use in the coastal city of Msa. The lady found by cops in possession of the phone identified those who sold it to her who happened to be one of the gang members who had participated in the prison break.

Fellow took the cops to where the rest of the thug-colleagues were, they were arrested but as fate would have it, one allegedly 'escaped'. The arrested fellows were taken to court with the taxi driver as the main prosecution witness.

As the case dragged on in court (deliberately??), the thug who escaped began threatening the taxi driver with dire consequences if he continued on as a prosecution witness. These threats were duly reported to the judge who then ordered the OCS to provide him with security. The OCS, as expected, dragged his feet claiming these thugs were in no position to hurt our taxi driver since they were in prison anyway (and conveniently forgetting of the escapee who most probably had other accomplices).

And so it was that on one fateful day, around 11a.m. on Mashujaa Day as I recall it, as our taxi guy was at the garage having his vehicle serviced, another vehicle pulled up at the garage gate and someone he didn't recognized beckoned him to approach. As he didn't know them, he hesitated a little bit and in the split second it takes to say ng'we, three bullets were pumped into his chest and he died instantly.

The vehicle sped off and they were never caught. Needless to add, the court case, devoid of its stellar witness, crumbled into a messy pile and the fellows were all set free by the court. And that, my dear friends, is how we lost an energetic and hardworking young man whose wife is now a widow and whose child will never know the joy of taking a walk and sharing a joke with his own dad.


Sad, I recently learnt of a case where someone known to me reported a threat to his life. The cops just told him they couldn't do anything about it for now until the threat had been acted upon. SMH. What is the position of the law in this?

β€œPeople will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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