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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2010 Posts: 305
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Pretty interesting. Cord stasticians...where u @? Na huyu Thatcher zake ziko wapi? “Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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We need Cord,Eagle,Kiyiapi,Kamenchu,Karua,Wajackoya,Eugene and Mudavadi's numbers then we can tell some of them to stop congesting the ballot paper and leave the race to the horses.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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The way people are talking here, our PK might not see the light of day
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2009 Posts: 597
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Liv wrote:Jubilee predicts Uhuru to win by 52 per cent - THE STAR Strategists within the Jubilee Coalition are predicting a first-round win with its flagbearer Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta beating Cord's Raila Odinga with close to one million votes.
A strategy document, prepared by the Jubilee team using the just released voter numbers and seen by the Star, predicts that Uhuru will garner 5 million against Raila's 4.2 million votes, while other candidates will share close to a million votes, if the election attracts a 71 per cent voter turnout. The assumption in the statistics is that out of the 14,337,399 registered voters only 9,695,166 will turn up to vote on March 4, and the previous voter turnouts in the various regions will be maintained. The predictions are likely to stir up the political scene ahead of the presidential poll which is already shaping up as a two-horse race between Raila and Uhuru.
The Jubilee strategy document shows that Uhuru wins by 52 per cent, Raila comes in second with 44 per cent while the other candidates garner 5 per cent of the votes in the first round. The report shows that Uhuru will win with a landslide in 15 counties taking 71 per cent of the votes while Raila will get 99 per cent in Siaya, Kisumu, Migori and Homa Bay. The prediction is that Uhuru will take 2.9 million votes out of an anticipated 3.5 million in the 15 counties with Raila taking 424,144. The Uhuru team projects that Raila will take 1.04 million votes out of an anticipated 1.05 million cast in Luo Nyanza with Uhuru only getting 10,569 votes. According to Uhuru's strategists, his running-mate, Eldoret North MP William Ruto, will comfortably bring in some 1.1 million votes from 11 counties in Rift Valley against Raila's 334,428. The statisticians assume that the Jubilee Coalition has a firm grip on Kiambu, Muranga, Nyandarua, Nyeri, Kirinyaga, Embu, Meru, Tharaka, Laikipia, Nakuru, Isiolo, Kajiado, Marsabit, Wajir and Mandera under Uhuru.
The Jubilee strongholds perceived to be under the control of Ruto are Uasin Gishu, Elgeyo Marakwet, Nandi, Baringo, Bomet, Kericho, Turkana, Samburu, Narok, West Pokot and Garissa.
Mombasa, Kwale, Kilifi, Lamu, Kisii, Nyamira, Tana River, Taita Taveta have been classified as the swing vote counties with Raila beating Uhuru in all of them except in Kisii and Nyamira. The analysis assumes equal popularity by Uhuru and Raila in Nairobi where they will get 45 per cent each of the votes cast. The assumption is that 925,030 of the 1,778,903 registered voters in Nairobi will vote with the two candidates getting 416,263 votes each. The strategists indicate in their analysis that; "The percentages allocated to Uhuru were pessimistic while those given to Raila were optimistic, even in our strongholds. We have given equal popularity to Uhuru and Raila in Nairobi knowing full well the DPM shall take the lead." The analysis allocates most of the votes in Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi, Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka who is the PM's running-mate and Justice Minister Eugene Wamalwa's perceived strongholds to Raila.
Interestingly, despite perching up with the Jubilee Coalition, Water Minister Charity Ngilu is not predicted to bring a lot of votes to the alliance. The Jubilee strategists indicate that in the Kalonzo/Ngilu backyard of Kitui, Machakos and Makueni, Raila will take 648,969 of the predicted 690,392 votes cast with Uhuru taking only 34,520 votes. The predictive data shows that Raila will take 536,434 of the 628,094 of the votes cast in Mudavadi's strongholds of Kakamega, Vihiga and Busia. The prediction is that Uhuru will get 24,255 votes in the same region while other candidates share 67,404. In Eugene's perceived strongholds of Trans Nzoia and Bungoma, the Uhuru team predicts that Raila will sweep 293,242 of the 384,194 anticipated votes with the Jubilee candidate taking 59,588. The statisticians are assuming that there will be a high voter turnout in Raila's strongholds at 80 per cent, Uhuru's at 75 per cent and Ruto's at 71 per cent. They assume the rest of the regions will record below 65 per cent voter turnout. On December 27, 2007, the voter turnout was 69 per cent with Central Kenya leading at 82 per cent followed by Nyanza at 76 per cent and Rift Valley at 72 per cent. The same scenario is expected to play out in the coming election.
Having read this,i do think njung'e is one of the stasticians. The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@QD, Aiii bwana?....I wish i was.It's by coincidence that the report comes close to what i offered here a few days ago.I actually would disagree with this "psycho-analysis" on several fronts.I think the 71% voter turn-out as indicated is/will not be possible.....I would be comfortable with 61-65% voter turnout.....Second,Kisii and Nyamira might not be swing votes per se.I would favour Cord here.Finally,i do not think Jubilee should give away Tana,Lamu and T/Taveta so easily. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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I am sure CORD will come up with their own paper that does a similar analysis and turns the tables on who wins what, so this ain't anything to discuss. I stick to my position of 75-85% voter turnout. Finally, if I were jubilee, I would not be too comfy relying on the Kalenjin vote too much. Regardless of who wins, the Riftvalley politicians will be heading for the opposition. UK will never give Ruto the 50% nusu mkate as promised here, the rift voters will learn this somewhere along the way, then the jubilee votes will start disappearing in the rift. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I am sure CORD will come up with their own paper that does a similar analysis and turns the tables on who wins what, so this ain't anything to discuss.
I stick to my position of 75-85% voter turnout.
Finally, if I were jubilee, I would not be too comfy relying on the Kalenjin vote too much. Regardless of who wins, the Riftvalley politicians will be heading for the opposition. UK will never give Ruto the 50% nusu mkate as promised here, the rift voters will learn this somewhere along the way, then the jubilee votes will start disappearing in the rift. t seems you are not "Corded".Such a paper was released by Nyong'o,Eseli and Mutula on 22nd of this month.It's highlight was that Cord would get 8M votes overall.....I ask!....Now,that is only possible if we will include Ugandans in the next general election....ama? as for your final comments,i won't take you seriously.....It's no different than when ODM campaigned for Mkenya in Kangema.unfortunately,no lesson was learnt. http://www.capitalfm.co....ya/?wpmp_switcher=mobileNothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/25/2012 Posts: 1,624 Location: Langley
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Obi, Cord released a statement on Friday. Key highlights. - Cord will win 29 senate seats. -160 parliamentary seat - Raila will get 8M out of 14M (57% ) - 30 women seat. If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I am sure CORD will come up with their own paper that does a similar analysis and turns the tables on who wins what, so this ain't anything to discuss.
I stick to my position of 75-85% voter turnout.
Finally, if I were jubilee, I would not be too comfy relying on the Kalenjin vote too much. Regardless of who wins, the Riftvalley politicians will be heading for the opposition. UK will never give Ruto the 50% nusu mkate as promised here, the rift voters will learn this somewhere along the way, then the jubilee votes will start disappearing in the rift. If they win, I am certain they will share “equally” The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I would NOT like Jubilee to win, similarly I would Not like CORD to win. My conscience cannot let me vote for these selfish coalitions as this nation and the citizen's well-being is the last thing on their minds. I will however respect what my fellow citizens decide although I hope they vote in the better devil of the two. I only urge people like me out there to vote for the candidate they believe is the best even if they have no chance of winning, it will not be a lost vote but a great statement and boost to 2017 as it is obvious that whomever we vote in after Kibs from these 2 coalitions will fail us. Thank you. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Obi, History will not be made and no record will be broken.Let's look at that history then; Year Turnout Votes Registered 2007 69.09% 9,877,028 14,296,180 2002 57.18% 5,975,910 10,451,150 1992 66.81% 5,248,596 7,855,880 Three things 1992 was the year of Ford.Very Euphoric! 2002 was time to send the Nyayo error home...Equally euphoric 2007 was the year of 41 agains one....So euphoric we butchered one another. 2013......is there any euphoria to bring the masses out?If we can't point one,then we are staring voter apathy especially in Provinces where there is nothing in it for "them"....I still insist that 70%+ average voter turnout is a dream!! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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^^ The Jubilee Alliance, whose engine room is Mr Kenyatta’s The National Alliance (TNA), is one of Kenya’s all- time most remarkable political formations. Youthful, vibrant, confident, forward- looking, Jubilee is not only the face of Kenya but also of Kenya’s future. Kagwanja huffs and puffs about the fact that Jubilee Alliance leaders Kenyatta and William Ruto have cases to answer at the International Criminal Court. So what? by Machel Waikenda, "Thumping of a chest" 2012. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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2012 I hear uh. I also cannnot vote any one who was ready to let kenya burn in 07 just because of stolen election neither can I vote anyone with case on crimes against humanity. If I Have to vote it will be round 2, whoever I feel is the lesser evil
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Njung'e wrote:If we can't point one,then we are staring voter apathy especially in Provinces where there is nothing in it for "them"....I still insist that 70%+ average voter turnout is a dream!! @Njung'e, I hear you but I have to ask, do the analysts know why these people bothered to register as voters yet they do not turn out to vote? @limanika, I voted for Kibaki in '92, '97 and he eventually won the 2002 elections which are the only ever known fair and undisputed elections in Kenya. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2009 Posts: 597
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In mathematics our freedom lies in the questions we ask and how we pursue them but not in the answers that awaits us. So let all the number analysis continue but some result awaits us in 7/03/2013 The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=2012 @Njung'e, I hear you but I have to ask, do the analysts know why these people bothered to register as voters yet they do not turn out to vote? .[/quote] @2012, I have no answer to that.Somehow,it's a universal problem.Figure this.In the last US election,the turnout was a miserable 57.5% (This was also the highest since 1972)....and only elections held between 1840 and 1900 registered figures above 70%...... i would also want to know what goes here. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Njung'e wrote:@2012,
I have no answer to that.Somehow,it's a universal problem.Figure this.In the last US election,the turnout was a miserable 57.5% (This was also the highest since 1972)....and only elections held between 1840 and 1900 registered figures above 70%...... i would also want to know what goes here. That's very interesting considering this was probably the second most divided election in the US after Bush/Gore. I really expected a huge turn up. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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The 2 sides are under-estimating the third force candidates. These guys IMO will make them not garner 50pc in round 1. Going forward, it will depend on how CORD will do their campaigns. They base it on the issue of economy and scare the voter with possible economic troubles to be brought by a Jubilee win.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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A must read for TNA strategists on why they should not just rely on numbers infact CORD will soon roll out its propaganda machine with historical injustices being on top It’s unsafe to rely on raw numbers to win elections in today’s world http://www.nation.co.ke/...72/-/kw81vo/-/index.html
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