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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Jamani wrote: I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts? @jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts. Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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dunkang wrote:Jamani wrote: I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts? @jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts. Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear. You had to bring UK into this, hope someone will not bring OAR too! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Impunity wrote:dunkang wrote:
@jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts.
Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear.
You had to bring UK into this, hope someone will not bring OAR too! So, @Impunity, which politician is been refered to by @drobos that he manipulated the court? Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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dunkang wrote:Jamani wrote: I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts? @jamani, why are you this cold hearted? Don't you know @drobos might have bought this thing at 50/- and you are giving him hard painful facts. Its like telling Uhuru that April 4th is 130 days to come. Yes its true, but its not what he wants to hear. I just placed facts as they are and @KG post #60 (please read in pg3) has put it so well, the issue is not political interference but a wrong way in approaching the retrenchment exercise.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.comHe who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Na the much earlier KK cases will be decided when? Or they not as politically sensitive as KQ... GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Good Idea.  Kindly indicate your email address you be added as a member OR go to groups.google.com search WAZUA group and send an add request. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Elder wrote:maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com Nimetuma... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Your email has been added to Wazua googlegroups and an invite sent to your email address. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Na the much earlier KK cases will be decided when? Or they not as politically sensitive as KQ...
According to views i read here "some politician" needs to comment then it will be decided.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Jamani wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Na the much earlier KK cases will be decided when? Or they not as politically sensitive as KQ...
According to views i read here "some politician" needs to comment then it will be decided. Hehe. Too bad the Govt. doesn't have a substantial stake in KK  GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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maka wrote:Elder wrote:maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com Nimetuma... Sijapata. @Pesa Nane, thanks. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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Jamani wrote:
I just call it a comment not political interference or political influence....
and what if from the same politician the comment has legal sound bases and the judge rules using the same legal bases what will you call it? Look at the MRC cases, Embakasi Mp case, Kibs cases where he has appointed without regard of the law, politicians made comments would you say the courts ruled based on political influence or the law?
Does it mean that if a political makes a comment on any legal matter then its political interference? do you imply that the judge made his ruling based on the comment and not legal facts?
Agreed, I may have been to fast on that one, but I can imagine how all that follows will play out after their reinstatement. I really pity the shareholders for NK's gambling move. Pesa Nane wrote:
I guess luggage
 my bad, that just proves my mother tongue isn't English. Impunity wrote:
You had to bring UK into this, hope someone will not bring OAR too!
Err too late!..hehe That's what politics is about.. Politicians! dunkang wrote:
So, @Impunity, which politician is been refered to by @drobos that he manipulated the court?
Okay let me not ride on hearsay at this point and leave things to unravel. maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Go to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wazua and join the relevant group and post it, I would also like to see it too. This should save everyone the inconvenience of posting their emails here
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Elder wrote:maka wrote:Elder wrote:maka wrote:@Drobos fly do you want to bet?The MD erred big time and he knows that he is so full of himself,why are other workers retrenched yet they dont go to court?simple reason the management engages with them until they reach an amicable solution,TN and his management dint,they did not iron out the differences that were their between them and the workers...I have the judgment with me 65 pages of it kindly take time and read it and get what Rika.J said...by the way how can I post it on that wazua google group things everyone can read Could you send me a copy by email? elderwakenya@gmail.com Nimetuma... Sijapata. @Pesa Nane, thanks. aje hujapata?natuma tena... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:Your email has been added to Wazua googlegroups and an invite sent to your email address. ...that was Elder's not mine. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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maka wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Your email has been added to Wazua googlegroups and an invite sent to your email address. ...that was Elder's not mine. Your email address please Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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It's time Naikuni went on rampage and threaten to shut down the national carrier.. ...seriously..how is he...or anyone for that matter..expected to run the debt ridden-biz starved contraption of an airline profitably? ..cut costs or shut down. period. #why embarrass himself further by running bankrupt within next 3 years max?? ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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@ Prov-B He should just resign, he had wrong advise on approach to retrenching staff and his lawyers refused to freeze when questioned by putting all their faith in the law court, hoping the court will look at the whole issue from a commercial rather than a legal angle.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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Jamani wrote:@ Prov-B He should just resign, he had wrong advise on approach to retrenching staff and his lawyers refused to freeze when questioned by putting all their faith in the law court, hoping the court will look at the whole issue from a commercial rather than a legal angle. Bottom line... business at KQ is untenable at current costs projection not even including costs of the entire retrenchment circus regardless of who is to blame... fact is.. all other factors remaining constant..KQ will need some serious bailout at some moment in not so distant future. A stupid legacy for TN #silently admiring Eddy Njoroge~ Quit while ahead. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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