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2012 Voter registration November
McReggae
#61 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:10:26 AM
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maka wrote:
McReggae wrote:
2012 wrote:
bkismat wrote:

Nairobi 1,548,217 107%


What does 107% mean? Does it mean people who should have registered elsewhere registered in Nairobi or there are more new registered (new IDs etc) voters than was estimated?


The target itself was based on an estimation!!!!

...what figures are they using to know the total number of potential voters in a region..lets say nyanza 70% of the guyz have registered,how do they know what 100% is...


From the census results, IEBS estimated the number of people elligible to vote in every county, that's how they set their targets!!!
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Liv
#62 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:12:14 AM
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Registered voters by province and as percentage of total ('000).

Rift Valley - 2,991 - 24%
Nairobi - 1,548 - 12%
Central - 1,976 - 16%
Eastern - 1,694 - 13%
Western - 1,284 - 10%
N. Eastern - 459 - 4%
Nyanza - 1,779 - 14%
Coast - 994 - 8%
TOTAL - 12,724 - 100%

Liv
#63 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:13:54 AM
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Estimated voters by communities based on counties ('000)

GEMA - 3,873 - 30%
Luo - 1,740 - 14%
Luhya - 1,614 - 13%
Kalenjin - 1,590 - 12%
Kamba - 1,047 - 8%
Kisii - 710 - 6%
Somali - 691 - 5%
MijiKenda - 644 - 5%
Maasai - 450 - 4%
Others - 366 - 3%
TOTAL - 12,724 - 100%

bkismat
#64 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:14:00 AM
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maka wrote:
McReggae wrote:
2012 wrote:
bkismat wrote:

Nairobi 1,548,217 107%


What does 107% mean? Does it mean people who should have registered elsewhere registered in Nairobi or there are more new registered (new IDs etc) voters than was estimated?


The target itself was based on an estimation!!!!

...what figures are they using to know the total number of potential voters in a region..lets say nyanza 70% of the guyz have registered,how do they know what 100% is...

IEBC looked at the latest census 2009? I think and from that projected the approximate population over 18 years old(Minimum voting age.That is what they are basing the %s on. Nairobi has gone over the estimates.
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Liv
#65 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:07:59 PM
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Liv wrote:
Registered voters by province and as percentage of total ('000).

Rift Valley - 2,991 - 24%
Nairobi - 1,548 - 12%
Central - 1,976 - 16%
Eastern - 1,694 - 13%
Western - 1,284 - 10%
N. Eastern - 459 - 4%
Nyanza - 1,779 - 14%
Coast - 994 - 8%
TOTAL - 12,724 - 100%




Compare the above with the following sample sizes by provinces in the last Ipsos Synovate Polls

Rift Valley - 399 - 25%
Nairobi - 170 - 10%
Central - 213 - 13%
Eastern - 243 - 15%
Western - 166 - 10%
N. Eastern - 77 - 5%
Nyanza - 213 - 13%
Coast - 144 - 9%
TOTAL Sample size - 1,625 - 100%

You will note how skewed their poll results are.
bkismat
#66 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:27:22 PM
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Liv wrote:
Liv wrote:
Registered voters by province and as percentage of total ('000).

Rift Valley - 2,991 - 24%
Nairobi - 1,548 - 12%
Central - 1,976 - 16%
Eastern - 1,694 - 13%
Western - 1,284 - 10%
N. Eastern - 459 - 4%
Nyanza - 1,779 - 14%
Coast - 994 - 8%
TOTAL - 12,724 - 100%




Compare the above with the following sample sizes by provinces in the last Ipsos Synovate Polls

Rift Valley - 399 - 25%24%
Nairobi - 170 - 10%12%
Central - 213 - 13%16%
Eastern - 243 - 15%13%
Western - 166 - 10%10%
N. Eastern - 77 - 5%4%
Nyanza - 213 - 13%14%
Coast - 144 - 9%8%
TOTAL Sample size - 1,625 - 100%

You will note how skewed their poll results are.

Looks OK
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#67 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:43:45 PM
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Seems people in NE who cannot authenticate their Kenyan-ness have taken cover.

They unregistered from this region should be followed up and smoked out and if they prove to be non citizens then returned to Somalia now that there is peace.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Liv
#68 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:40:22 AM
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bkismat wrote:

Compare the above with the following sample sizes by provinces in the last Ipsos Synovate Polls

Rift Valley - 399 - 25%24%
Nairobi - 170 - 10%12%
Central - 213 - 13%16%
Eastern - 243 - 15%13%
Western - 166 - 10%10%
N. Eastern - 77 - 5%4%
Nyanza - 213 - 13%14%
Coast - 144 - 9%8%
TOTAL Sample size - 1,625 - 100%

You will note how skewed their poll results are.

Looks OK
[/quote]

Looks ok to you? I guess you failed in your statistics if you ever came near such a class...lol

e.g. In Central province, Ipsos picked 213 people for the sample (13% of total national sample). That is 49 people less than what should have been picked... if they had used 16% they should have picked 262 instead of 213. That is 23% understatement of the sample size for the region and gives you a skewed total polls result. 23% is what they call significant statistically.
majimaji
#69 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:06:03 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Liv wrote:
Liv wrote:
Registered voters by province and as percentage of total ('000).

Rift Valley - 2,991 - 24%
Nairobi - 1,548 - 12%
Central - 1,976 - 16%
Eastern - 1,694 - 13%
Western - 1,284 - 10%
N. Eastern - 459 - 4%
Nyanza - 1,779 - 14%
Coast - 994 - 8%
TOTAL - 12,724 - 100%




Compare the above with the following sample sizes by provinces in the last Ipsos Synovate Polls

Rift Valley - 399 - 25%24%
Nairobi - 170 - 10%12%
Central - 213 - 13%16%
Eastern - 243 - 15%13%
Western - 166 - 10%10%
N. Eastern - 77 - 5%4%
Nyanza - 213 - 13%14%
Coast - 144 - 9%8%
TOTAL Sample size - 1,625 - 100%

You will note how skewed their poll results are.

Looks OK


Looks OK to me also. In fact fairly accurate I say.
McReggae
#70 Posted : Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:27:36 PM
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Provisional:

Total :14,337,399
R Valley:3,373,853
Central:2,190,477
Eastern:2,092,883
Nyanza:1,954,756
Nairobi:1,778,903
Western:1,434,987
Coast:1,164,803
N. Eastern:347,457
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
wa P
#71 Posted : Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:10:01 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Provisional:

Total :14,337,399
R Valley:3,373,853
Central:2,190,477
Eastern:2,092,883
Nyanza:1,954,756
Nairobi:1,778,903
Western:1,434,987
Coast:1,164,803
N. Eastern:347,457


Good job Mcreggae. You live on news edge.
Table it by county wont you?
McReggae
#72 Posted : Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:30:29 PM
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wa P wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Provisional:

Total :14,337,399
R Valley:3,373,853
Central:2,190,477
Eastern:2,092,883
Nyanza:1,954,756
Nairobi:1,778,903
Western:1,434,987
Coast:1,164,803
N. Eastern:347,457


Good job Mcreggae. You live on news edge.
Table it by county wont you?


Download from here!!!
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Shotgun
#73 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 10:56:36 PM
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My little layman analysis shows Jubilee can beat CORD even after 'divorcing' MaDvD. However without MaDvD, there is now a higher chance of the game going to extra time (Run Off).

My assumptions are that there will only be UK and RAO in the runoff and that all regions will have the same voter turnout, such that the numbers below will decrease by the same ratio as will be the voter turnout.





UK RAO
Coast - 1,164,083 - 50%/50% - 582,042 - 582,042
N.E - 347,457 - 50%/50% - 173,729 - 173,729
Eastern - 2,092,883 - 50%/50% - 1,046,442 - 1,046,442
Central - 2,190,477 - 80%/20% - 1,752,382 - 438,095
R.V - 3,373,853 - 65%/35% - 2,193,004 - 1,180,849
Western - 1,434,987 20%/80% - 286,997 - 1,147,990
Nyanza - 1,954,756 20%/80% - 390,951 - 1,563,805
Nairobi - 1,778,903 50%/50% - 889,452 - 889,452
14,337,399 7,314,998 7,022,401
51.0% 49.0%


Coast - The Jubilee can attain 50% through Tana (Mla Mamba), Taita Taveta (Shabaan), Lamu and Mombasa being a cosmopolitan city they can definitely get half the votes). Not sure of Balala's influence in that though. Zipapa also with the MRC might not bring in a lot of votes from Kwale.


N.E - Dont think it will be hard to pull 170K (50%) votes in N.E (Duale, Hajj and the whole URP portraying themselves as the pastrolists party)

Eastern - Meru, Tharaka, Embu and Kitui (Mama Ngilu) and the Northern frontier can deliver 50%. Maybe even 60%.


Central - 80% will be a guarantee and RAO 20%. Well, am just being nice here. On a run off, this might be 98/2.


R.V - This is a tricky one considering there are still doubts if all of Ruto's 'constituency' is safely in Jubilee. But with Nakuru, Laikipia,Naivasha and Kajiado being in RV, we can safely assume Jubilee can attain atleast two thirds of the votes.

Western - This is the province that will break or make RAO. I have assumed RAO gets 80% of the votes assuming MaDvD supports him in the Runoff (which is also not guaranteed). If RAO doesnt get those 80% Western Votes, the game becomes even harder for CORD.

Nyanza - Well without a doubt, RAO will get 101% votes in the Luo Nyanza but Jubilee may scrabble about 20% in the Kisii Nyanza region.

Nairobi - Well, another tricky and interesting one. I assume a 50/50 Jubilee vs Cord.

So there you have it.
Could UhuRuto have looked at these numbers and decided they dont really need MaDvD? I think so...but then again....what do I know.

Sickquot;
Liv
#74 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:07:07 AM
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Estimated registered voters by communities (based on counties -'000)

GEMA - 4,361 - 30.4%
Luo - 1,916 - 13.4%
Luhya - 1,817 - 12.7%
Kalenjin - 1,810 - 12.6%
Kamba - 1,193 - 8.3%
Kisii - 812 - 5.7%
Somali - 614 - 4.3%
MijiKenda - 753 - 5.2%
Maasai - 478 - 3.3%
Others - 583 - 4.1%
TOTAL - 14,338 - 100%
murchr
#75 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:10:56 AM
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Liv wrote:
Estimated registered voters by communities (based on counties -'000)

GEMA - 4,361 - 30.4%
Luo - 1,916 - 13.4%
Luhya - 1,817 - 12.7%
Kalenjin - 1,810 - 12.6%
Kamba - 1,193 - 8.3%
Kisii - 812 - 5.7%
Somali - 614 - 4.3%
MijiKenda - 753 - 5.2%
Maasai - 478 - 3.3%
Others - 583 - 4.1%
TOTAL - 14,338 - 100%


Source? Kweli hii ukabila haitawahi isha.
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Njung'e
#76 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:12:01 AM
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@Shotgun,

Voter turn out cannot be a 100% whatever the case.In 2007,the national average was 69%.How did the indivividual provinces fair?.

Nrb – 51.5
Coast- 57
NE – 61.3
Eastern - 65.9
Cen – 82.1
RV - 72.8
West- 62
Nyan- 76.2

If the situation remains,i forsee no much change in Cen,Nairobi,Eastern and Nyanza but i predict voter apathy in Coast,NE and Wes (What is in it for them)....and even in RV!....but like you,what do i know?
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
McReggae
#77 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:44:14 AM
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The tribal arithmetic to show kyuks and Kaleos can win on their own continues.....kwa debe majamaneni.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Lolest!
#78 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:00:53 AM
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McReggae wrote:
The tribal arithmetic to show kyuks and Kaleos can win on their own continues.....kwa debe majamaneni.

Watu wako na jokes sana. The best they will do is a first round win. This is going to round 2. Round 2 is a cord win.
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Njung'e
#79 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:12:27 AM
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[quote=Lolest
Watu wako na jokes sana. The best they will do is a first round win. This is going to round 2. Round 2 is a cord win.[/quote]

Explain your thoughts.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
McReggae
#80 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:54:01 AM
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Whatevet permutations bwana guka.... jubilee has no route to 50% plus plus one.
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