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So, Mr. Clean, do you remember this?
alma
#31 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:21:19 PM
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Insunuations

I know that someone running was involved in Molasses, hires his family members to top positions, lets not talk about oil cartels.

I know another who's family is probably the biggest mob of land grabbers in the world. May be involved in serious crimes etc etc

I know another who's name was nearly printed in 500 bob notes. May be involved in serious crimes etc etc

Those are the people I know.

As for PK. I know nothing.

Actually no one here has said categorically that any helicopter he's riding on is his. That he stole it from CMC motors.

No one here other than making long winded statements has said, categorically that he was involved in any underhanded deals.

I'm a voter. I want to know. If he stole any money, stop going writing worthless thesis in every Kenyan blog out there.

Simama kama mwanaume. Tell us.

Hizi siasa za Raila na Uhuru that are meant for the least educated amongst Kenyans should be frowned upon in a forum where people can type.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
McReggae
#32 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:44:17 PM
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Hahaha @Alma,
So you'd rather believe in insinuations against the Raila's, Ruto's and UK's of this world but sweep those against PK under the carpet, even for the above none of the allegations has proof,by the way given the number of times PK uses the copters, it would be cheaper to own one than to hire!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#33 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:59:31 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Once Mr. Clean owned a company just him and member for Aldai....thimioni plz confirm!!!!


The Giant National Assuance, now I know where the money for choppers came from!!!

d'oh! d'oh!
Portfolio: Sold
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:46:11 PM
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Nishasemaaa .... na ntasema tena ---- PK is the guy .... na hata kama ana ma-kashfa ..... he is the lesser evil....

Acheni domo ....... ama wewe dunkang ...... sema straight who you are voting for...

Kura kwa PK.

NA WE CAN MAKE THE NEXT 5 YEARS MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN AND TO OUR COUNTRY.
God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!

radio
#35 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:55:31 PM
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Joined: 11/9/2009
Posts: 2,003
alma wrote:
Insunuations

I know that someone running was involved in Molasses, hires his family members to top positions, lets not talk about oil cartels.

I know another who's family is probably the biggest mob of land grabbers in the world. May be involved in serious crimes etc etc

I know another who's name was nearly printed in 500 bob notes. May be involved in serious crimes etc etc

Those are the people I know.

As for PK. I know nothing.

Actually no one here has said categorically that any helicopter he's riding on is his. That he stole it from CMC motors.

No one here other than making long winded statements has said, categorically that he was involved in any underhanded deals.

I'm a voter. I want to know. If he stole any money, stop going writing worthless thesis in every Kenyan blog out there.

Simama kama mwanaume. Tell us.


Hizi siasa za Raila na Uhuru that are meant for the least educated amongst Kenyans should be frowned upon in a forum where people can type.


In red!
Kusadikika
#36 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:51:34 PM
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hoodrat wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
The cleanest presidential candidate is Uhuru Kenyatta. I have never heard a corrupt deal he has been involved in. All his wealth has been acquired in the most transparent and legitimate way, inheritance. All the rest are hustlers who have had to squeeze a deal here, a deal there to get ahead.

This Mr. clean guy had a very long and we may speculate a financially and politically uplifting relationship with the member for Aldai at a time when wao walikuwa wenyenchi. Mkiona vyaelea, vimeundwa.

Was the infamous budget error expained?I highly doubt UK is using his inheritance to buy out all these politicians!


You grossly underestimate the size of his inheritance.


Kusadikika
#37 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:09:24 PM
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In Moi's Kanu the line between clean and unclean was not very clear. So for example people would go to Moi and say you have a money problem and then he would maybe call the MD of National Bank and tell him to give you some money. So you walk to National Bank and walk out with a few millions, you buy property and appear rich or if you have a good sense invest the money wisely and make even bigger returns. For as long as you toe the line nobody ever asks for the money back or if the bank writes to you to ask for payment you may go to Moi again or a powerful state house guy and the calls stop. Somehow the money becomes a bad debt or debt guaranteed by government but either way you are rich without having worked for it and not having exactly stolen.

Other ways to make money for the really huge players then was to become a supplier to government or government institutions. You buy a million paper clips for one cent each and then sell it to GOK at 10 shillings each. Technically you are just a businessman making a profit just like all businessmen do so you can call yourself clean and no court will ever find fault in your dealings. For the big boys there was NSSF. You buy a plot for say 1 million, or even better you get a government plot allocated to you by Moi (He could legally do this) then you call NSSF or have people from state house or just powerful people call NSSF and they "agree" to buy your 1 million shilling plot for 50 million after less than a year. You are still clean. Hujafanya makosa.

So anyone who was an insider in the Moi government by either being a head of a parastatal or close to the right powers could make a lot of money in legally clean but shady deals.
mkeiyd
#38 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:30:45 PM
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Of all the sitting MPs, he's the only one who has stretched his constituency's CDF farthest.I therefore draw the conclusion that he's done cutting shady deals [if he ever did] and he will stretch our national budget widest.

How has UK,Ruto,RAO etc performed on that front? They had to be forced by KRA to pay taxes.

PK's evils fade away when compared to those of the rest.
Lolest!
#39 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:41:10 PM
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This is more interesting than I thought.

So now UK and RAO supporters have united against PK!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I propose UK and RAO join hands against this PK 'safi kama pamba' guy.

The elections will be won even before they start!

But seriously, PK needs to come clean on his wealth if he is clean.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
bkismat
#40 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:41:18 PM
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Haha a clean shady deal. Thats new.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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