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L'e Mac - The First Residential Skycrapper in Kenya..
kyt
#31 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 4:21:07 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
@Jamani...billionaires live in castles not apartments...but enough of the wishful thinking.What percentage of your total wealth should your house be?...for me about 5% is cool...so to live in this 15m apartment,I should not have a net worth of less than 300million.
makofi, as kingangi would say kayamba kayamba kayamba
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luxel
#32 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 5:17:09 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
@Jamani...billionaires live in castles not apartments...but enough of the wishful thinking.What percentage of your total wealth should your house be?...for me about 5% is cool...so to live in this 15m apartment,I should not have a net worth of less than 300million.
@mutaga, are you suggesting that the people who own maisonettes worth kshs 12.5M (Langata, SouthB/C,Nairobi west etc) could be having wealth in the range of kshs250M.
youcan'tstopusnow
#33 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 5:23:55 PM
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The 5% is for Mutaga alone, as he has stated. However, the property market would be dead if most people abided by it
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sparkly
#34 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 5:50:30 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
@Jamani...billionaires live in castles not apartments...but enough of the wishful thinking.What percentage of your total wealth should your house be?...for me about 5% is cool...so to live in this 15m apartment,I should not have a net worth of less than 300million.
@mutaga what is the percentage of your networth to the value of your current residence? I don't imagine you can hack those ratios before you reach 40. before 40 i suppose most people's most valuable asset will be their home (that is if they have any).
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S.Mutaga III
#35 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 5:56:59 PM
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@luxel...as I said...''for me''...I dont speak on behalf of anyone else...@youcantstopusnow...do you buy a house to enjoy better living standards or to promote the property market?coz to me,it seems ur priority is the later...and the former is just a side benefit.
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dunkang
#36 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 8:02:25 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
sincerely speaking, a 40 by 80 at mirema drive, zimmerman, is around 3M. Build urself a 4br bungalow for 2M, and buy 2.5M safcom shares with the balance 10M whose dividend will be enough to cater for 2 watchmen, cook and etc.
Shame on you Shame on you
rafiki, building a 4 br bungalow on your own land should not be over 2M brother/sister. Butit all depend on taste, labda you are the VP. Wacheni kuharibu pesa.
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Seles83
#37 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:34:21 AM
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The fact that most of us cannot afford the project doesn't make less qualified to analyze the prospects of possible ROI and challenges of such kind of investments.. I see a trend that most luxury apartments and projects get severe beating or heavily criticized negatively without facts or even sound logic.. When it comes to investments its all about about return and not the principle sum invested.. For Example:- If you spend 5m buying an apartment in Imara Daima and rent it out at 30k per month that translates to 7% ROI: Same applies for Kileleshwa buyer who bought a property at 15m and rent it out for 87500 per month.. Imara Daima Tenant is more likely to move to growth suburb like soykimau and Juja to build his or her property.. But Kileleshwa tenant they will always roam around upmarket suburbs as long as cash flow allows... With the growing middle class in Kenya and Africa, the biggest growth in real estate will be experienced in growth suburbs and mature suburbs (Exclusive suburbs).. "Its not the most intelligent people that make it big in life..but the most responsive and adaptive of them all"
More monies, more problems...
itz
#38 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:49:50 AM
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Seles83 wrote:
The fact that most of us cannot afford the project doesn't make less qualified to analyze the prospects of possible ROI and challenges of such kind of investments.. I see a trend that most luxury apartments and projects get severe beating or heavily criticized negatively without facts or even sound logic.. When it comes to investments its all about about return and not the principle sum invested.. For Example:- If you spend 5m buying an apartment in Imara Daima and rent it out at 30k per month that translates to 7% ROI: Same applies for Kileleshwa buyer who bought a property at 15m and rent it out for 87500 per month.. Imara Daima Tenant is more likely to move to growth suburb like soykimau and Juja to build his or her property.. But Kileleshwa tenant they will always roam around upmarket suburbs as long as cash flow allows... With the growing middle class in Kenya and Africa, the biggest growth in real estate will be experience in growth suburbs and mature suburbs (Exclusive suburbs).. "Its not the most intelligent people that make it big in life..but the most responsive and adaptive of them all"
@seles83 i think you are spot on on all of your views here.well organized suburbs and areas will make you more money in the future and most of all will hold value more than many of the places i see crop up. This is a good investment project especially if they deliver .
Jamani
#39 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:05:52 AM
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Seles83 wrote:
The fact that most of us cannot afford the project doesn't make less qualified to analyze the prospects of possible ROI and challenges of such kind of investments.. I see a trend that most luxury apartments and projects get severe beating or heavily criticized negatively without facts or even sound logic.. "Its not the most intelligent people that make it big in life..but the most responsive and adaptive of them all"
The issue we are talking about is not affordability or beating luxury apartments for the sake of it as you state above rather we are questioning the value for money. Is there value investing KES 15 million for a one bedroom apartment? that is the issue.
Seles83
#40 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:11:52 AM
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Jamani wrote:
Seles83 wrote:
The fact that most of us cannot afford the project doesn't make less qualified to analyze the prospects of possible ROI and challenges of such kind of investments.. I see a trend that most luxury apartments and projects get severe beating or heavily criticized negatively without facts or even sound logic.. "Its not the most intelligent people that make it big in life..but the most responsive and adaptive of them all"
The issue we are talking about is not affordability or beating luxury apartments for the sake of it as you state above rather we are questioning the value for money. Is there value investing KES 15 million for a one bedroom apartment? that is the issue.
What do you reckon would be fair price for L'e Mac given the facilities and location?
More monies, more problems...
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