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LETTER TO THE CHIEF JUSTICE
chiaroscuro
#31 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 3:32:41 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
Guys, I happened to take my nephew to get a Certificate of Good Conduct at the CID HQs on Kiambu road. I wish the CJ and all his team could pay them a visit to understand that the best way of crowd control is to have none at all.

I was there at 7.45 a.m courtesy of the Kibaki Super highway. My anticipated traffic mess did not materialize. The guys started working by 8 a.m pronto!!! They told the guys where to pay and the procedure. What I found amazing was the speed with which the cashier was receipting. When I saw my nephews receipt, I realized that everything else had been filled and he just needed your ID. He puts down your name and ID and PAP you have your receipt. All manual by the way

Inside, there are two ladies waiting for you to give your ID and receipt for a photocopy and viola your are seated in less that 15 minutes after all you relevant docs have been attached. At the seats, you follow a strict system and within another 20 minutes the guys fingerprints had been taken and he was told to leave.

I could not believe the efficiency. We were leaving the gate (having a definite collection date written on the receipt) by 8.30!!!!

Bw. CJ, go and learn.



Or the Passport Office at Nyayo House
chiaroscuro
#32 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 4:21:50 PM
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dunkang wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
jimmy1 wrote:
i was arrested for ..... so i opted to 'pay'the officer in charge of traffic 1k instead of spending the whole day in court cells just to lead guilty and pay 500/.Until spot fines are ........, it save s a lot of time and energy


@jimmy1; No. Please, NO!

The road to.....

....... and was served withing 30min.

Again I was: bribing the cop does NOT solve the problem.



Suppose you were to attend to a very very very important thing in your life, e.g. exam, interview, clinic e.t.c, ain't being philanthropic like one man Jimmy acceptable.

This character didn't just 'pay' the fine (500/-), he also 'paid' the cop(s) to for the service of staying 'near' the cells for him!


that's why "the road to heaven is narrow and filled with many hurdles". You would have to miss the important thing in order to stay in "the road to heaven". All other explanations as to why you have to give a bribe are simply self-justifications
Impunity
#33 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2012 4:14:04 AM
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#34 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2012 4:16:11 AM
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Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

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BAILING OUT SUSPECTS: Mungai Kihanya, who asked why there are posters all over the place at Milimani Law Courts in Nairobi stating that fines can only be paid on behalf of convicts by their relatives and friends, says he was pleasantly surprised to receive a response from Chief Justice Mutunga, who used his personal, free Web-based email account. “I was elated. He wrote to me directly, promising to sort out the problem. He said cashiers will now go to courts and those who have posted cash bail will be able to use that money. I wonder if that is already happening!” Mungai’s contact is mkihanya@yahoo.com.

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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

bwenyenye
#35 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 12:47:33 PM
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Good People,

I read somewhere that they have introduced some M-pesa payment thing. Has anyone experienced it? Does it work? Does it solve the issues raised in this thread?
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mkonomtupu
#36 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 1:06:27 PM
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M-pesa payment is yet to work problem is when you are charged you don't have the case number so you have to wait till the session ends to start making payment. It's much easier to have the system where the cashier collects the fine and gives you a receipt in the court room
accelriskconsult
#37 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 4:21:35 PM
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Bwenyenye the best solution is instant fines or no contest entered on the charge sheet then followed up by payment to a magistrates court. it doesnt matter where if the judiciary is fully connected. However, those changes need some changes to legislation and our poorly paid MPs have no time to think (they have to sell sukuma by the roadside in order to make ends meet).
washiku
#38 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:27:51 AM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
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bwenyenye wrote:
Guys, I happened to take my nephew to get a Certificate of Good Conduct at the CID HQs on Kiambu road. I wish the CJ and all his team could pay them a visit to understand that the best way of crowd control is to have none at all.

I was there at 7.45 a.m courtesy of the Kibaki Super highway. My anticipated traffic mess did not materialize. The guys started working by 8 a.m pronto!!! They told the guys where to pay and the procedure. What I found amazing was the speed with which the cashier was receipting. When I saw my nephews receipt, I realized that everything else had been filled and he just needed your ID. He puts down your name and ID and PAP you have your receipt. All manual by the way

Inside, there are two ladies waiting for you to give your ID and receipt for a photocopy and viola your are seated in less that 15 minutes after all you relevant docs have been attached. At the seats, you follow a strict system and within another 20 minutes the guys fingerprints had been taken and he was told to leave.

I could not believe the efficiency. We were leaving the gate (having a definite collection date written on the receipt) by 8.30!!!!

Bw. CJ, go and learn.



I cosign. I went there in July, very early, expecting to be there till midday. I was out in less than 30 mins. KUDOs to the guys....
mmarto
#39 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:00:41 AM
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who knows the procedure of getting KACC nap a cop who is sumbua-ring me. He picked two cars in like 100 cars that had formed a second lane which the trafic cops themselves allow(between city mortuary and golfcourse) then alimwachilia mwenzangu. He took me to kilimani police st and asked me to leave my car and go to court this morning if i didnot part with 5k amalize maneno. Kufika kotini this morning my name was missing from the charge sheet list. Am going to kilimani but wish to nap him incase he is looking for a a bribe. Mine is that narrow path.
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
bwenyenye
#40 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:09:13 AM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
Bwenyenye the best solution is instant fines or no contest entered on the charge sheet then followed up by payment to a magistrates court. it doesnt matter where if the judiciary is fully connected. However, those changes need some changes to legislation and our poorly paid MPs have no time to think (they have to sell sukuma by the roadside in order to make ends meet).


That is what I am talking about. I have been arrested overlapping. Nimekubali... so Why cant I not go to court at my time, fill in the no contest and pay at the cashier ( or even utilize my bond).... That would solve alot of corruption issues.. Why waste my day waiting to tell a magistrate 'Nimekubali'
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