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why are they chasing gadaffi if this is true
KenyanLyrics
#31 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:01:16 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
KenyanLyrics wrote:
@Kyt you are underestimating the importance of economic development in a third world country. Poverty is mentally destabilising. To free people mentally, you must have a leader who drags them out of poverty. People like Gaddafi are exactly what Africa needs. This democracy stuff does not work with poor countries


And this is why we have a continent of old idiotic dictators who only enrich themselves and the populace suffers.

This thinking is brainwashing from the same useless person you voted for and call your leader. He wants you to believe this so he can stay in power for 30+ years.

WAKE UP!

I have not got this reasoning from any Kenyan. I have got this reasoning from the examples of Asian countries who successfully dragged themselves out of poverty in the past century. We all know the story of the Asian Tigers. Can you name for me a country that has climbed out of third world poverty under democratic leadership?
Inuendo
#32 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:19:37 PM
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@ kenyanlyrics, great observation...........Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
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KulaRaha
#33 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:31:37 PM
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Inuendo wrote:
@ kenyanlyrics, great observation...........Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


Really? Let's look at Korea which is always compared to Kenya, one a success another a failure. Same GDP, population etc as at 1963. A true Asian tiger!

http://en.wikipedia.org/...esidents_of_South_Korea

I don't see one Kenyatta or Moi there......maybe I'm reading wrong........

15 presidents since 1963. We've had how many pulling us out of poverty? 3? Hilarious!!

Oh but now you'll say they had US support, which we did too during the cold war.....however our support was chewed by individuals.

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MaichBlack
#34 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 12:35:38 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
"Money does not buy happiness"
Libya happens to have a lot of oil wealth which makes life easy for its citizens, but this does not make the citizens happy with the government. I believe the beef most have with Gaddafi (sp)is that he has granted himself the sole right to distribute wealth which is not his, the rebels want the right to choose who will distribute the wealth.

Arguing that the citizens of Libya should not complain because of the goodies they have is akin to suggesting that the people of Rundas, Karens, Muthaigas etc should find no fault in the Kenya Govt coz they are well off.

Are you serious? Which other leader in the world distributes wealth DIRECTLY to the citizens? Gadaffi has done far much more for his people than leaders of the wealthiest of countries. Quote just one country and prove me wrong.

Happiness? Seriously!? It is your responsibility to 'create' your own happiness at the micro level. You want the president to sort out even your family issues? Libyans have/had everything apart from political space. Who needs political space whe the government has given you everything? For what? Maybe for 'kupayuka' as someone correctly put it.

Finally, and with all due respect, I find your analogy of Karen, Muthaiga residents etc. hillarious if not pedestrian. The honest ones got there DESPITE OF not BECAUSE OF the government. They could be more successful if the environment was better. So, hell yeah, they should complain.

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#35 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 12:59:25 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
"Money does not buy happiness"
Libya happens to have a lot of oil wealth which makes life easy for its citizens, but this does not make the citizens happy with the government. I believe the beef most have with Gaddafi (sp)is that he has granted himself the sole right to distribute wealth which is not his, the rebels want the right to choose who will distribute the wealth.

Arguing that the citizens of Libya should not complain because of the goodies they have is akin to suggesting that the people of Rundas, Karens, Muthaigas etc should find no fault in the Kenya Govt coz they are well off.

Are you serious? Which other leader in the world distributes wealth DIRECTLY to the citizens? Gadaffi has done far much more for his people than leaders of the wealthiest of countries. Quote just one country and prove me wrong.

Happiness? Seriously!? It is your responsibility to 'create' your own happiness at the micro level. You want the president to sort out even your family issues? Libyans have/had everything apart from political space. Who needs political space whe the government has given you everything? For what? Maybe for 'kupayuka' as someone correctly.

Finally, and with all due respect, I find your analogy of Karen, Muthaiga residents etc. hillarious if not pedestrian. The honest ones got there DESPITE OF not BECAUSE OF the government. They could be more successful if the environment was better. So, hell yeah, they should complain.

When you get your BAT dividend cheque - enough for your kid's fees - do you care who's signature appears on it? Tafakari hayo.


How about you try and explain the Libyan problem as it is now since you seem to have all the answers. And you are free to blane the west an America if you so wish.
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Rahatupu
#36 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 4:10:15 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
"Money does not buy happiness"
Libya happens to have a lot of oil wealth which makes life easy for its citizens, but this does not make the citizens happy with the government. I believe the beef most have with Gaddafi (sp)is that he has granted himself the sole right to distribute wealth which is not his, the rebels want the right to choose who will distribute the wealth.

Arguing that the citizens of Libya should not complain because of the goodies they have is akin to suggesting that the people of Rundas, Karens, Muthaigas etc should find no fault in the Kenya Govt coz they are well off.

Are you serious? Which other leader in the world distributes wealth DIRECTLY to the citizens? Gadaffi has done far much more for his people than leaders of the wealthiest of countries. Quote just one country and prove me wrong.

Happiness? Seriously!? It is your responsibility to 'create' your own happiness at the micro level. You want the president to sort out even your family issues? Libyans have/had everything apart from political space. Who needs political space whe the government has given you everything? For what? Maybe for 'kupayuka' as someone correctly.

Finally, and with all due respect, I find your analogy of Karen, Muthaiga residents etc. hillarious if not pedestrian. The honest ones got there DESPITE OF not BECAUSE OF the government. They could be more successful if the environment was better. So, hell yeah, they should complain.

When you get your BAT dividend cheque - enough for your kid's fees - do you care who's signature appears on it? Tafakari hayo.


How about you try and explain the Libyan problem as it is now since you seem to have all the answers. And you are free to blane the west an America if you so wish.


@ObiShame on you Shame on you

The Benghazi "rebels" are hired goons for the US simple and clear.
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