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Seeders
#31 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 10:34:09 AM
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if the cycle continues, i think someone can move to court to have parliament dissolved for not adhering to the implementation time lines. problem is IIEC is still an interim body so don't see the courts agreeing.

cant wait to kick this patched up sirikal into the abyss. go to elections vote one guy who we can all squarely pin our beefs with the executive on and the country can quickly move forward.


Jus Blazin wrote:
Something doesnt add up. Picture this. Earlier in the month, when Marende passed the issue to the house committees, he asked the principals to meet and agree, and save the country from all this hullabaloo. The principals met, but never agreed. Now the matter has been declared unconstitutional. The principals will have to meet, again. Even with the input of JSC on the CJ, or advertisements on the other offices, what happens if they dont agree on the CJ, AG, DPP, CoB? Someone? Anyone? Advice. Because this is the grim scenario we are facing.

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Karema Hiti
#32 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 11:40:33 AM
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I may be asking for too much and perhaps too late in the day. How else can we dismantle the coalition government? I suppose by asking IIEC to recount the disputed presidential votes and declare who the actual winner was. This unnecessary circus of brinkmanship will come to a permanent end. Kenya oyeeeeeh!
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si_cheki_ovyo_ovyo
#33 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:08:19 PM
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@sicheki, parliaments role is not bribing you. This role has developed slowly due to the ordinary kenyans thirst for free stuff and corruption. The CDF thing came up because kenyans were emptying their Mps accounts with their beggar mentality. @rahatupu, i hear you, but i dont think there is any impunity here. As mukiha has pointed out, we are now in uncertain times. We might have other such cases soon.



parliament, parliament, parliament....oh brother. are we not the very ones who did not want a parliamentary system? it was the best thing to happen to this country that we dont have a parliamentary system.

CDF you are talking about is now what the mps are emptying. parliament has given itself the role of bribing the citizens. wait and watch the general elections.
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ecstacy
#34 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:19:33 PM
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What Solomonic wisdom? Marende just wasted precious time and worse presents the same problem again. We still do not have clear guidance as to what constitutes consultation yet they are to consult forcefully.

Meanwhile, the JSC was not consulted let alone the issue of gender balance, facts Marende knew all along! wait..what's the speaker's role in parliament?

The whole debate has largely not been if the law was followed but if RAO was consulted - whatever that means. By admission, he never followed the law himself! Sympathizers here some how forget that.

The Principals need to be censured for lack of leadership and clear legal direction be given as to what happens constitutionally if the Principals fail to agree.
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TAZ
#35 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:35:33 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
What Solomonic wisdom? Marende just wasted precious time and worse presents the same problem again. We still do not have clear guidance as to what constitutes consultation yet they are to consult forcefully.

Meanwhile, the JSC was not consulted a fact Marende knew all along! wait..what's the speaker's role in parliament?

The whole debate has largely not been if the law was followed but if RAO was consulted - whatever that means. By admission, he never followed the law himself! Sympathizers here some how forget that.

The Principals need to be censured for lack of leadership and clear legal direction be given as to what happens constitutionally if the Principals fail to agree.


Well spoken.....the two Principals got it all wrong, they both decided to consult between themselves without involving the JSC. Has anyone even thought what would have happened had the two agreed on the nominees. These political battle between RAO, UK & Ruto has nothing to do with what's best for the nation....these clowns have their eyes fixed on 2012 elections.
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xyzee
#36 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:36:40 PM
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@ecstacy

From my understanding if the timelines of implimentation of the constitution are not adhered to, which can arise due to failure of the principals to agree, then anyone is free to go to court and the Court will give a time line within which the same has to be done failure to which parliament is disolved and we go into election.


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kivairu
#37 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 4:41:21 PM
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"The Principals need to be censured for lack of leadership and clear legal direction be given as to what happens constitutionally if the Principals fail to agree. [/quote]"



Well said dude....i think formal education is thoroughly overrated in Kenya.Some of the guys misleading us on constitutional matters are actually professors(Kivutha Kibwana), chief advisor, on constitutional matters, to His Excellency, the president.Sometimes i think there's need to elect a 'fundi wa chuma' to positions of leadership, or capenters.So much elitism, that comes out of our formal education, seems to be a fallacy....Even right here , on wazua, there's so much tribal bigotry from the 'enlightened'...just look at arguments advanced regarding the Kibaki list and draw your own conclusions.Outright misinterpretations, intellectual dishonesty depending on tribe or political leanings.... my 2zim dollar thots

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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For Sport
#38 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 8:27:41 PM
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Solomonic wisdom...tow mothers fighting over a baby. I wonder how the baby is doing.
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ecstacy
#39 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:19:31 AM
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The Constitutional Court ruling should give this issue some direction. The odds seem stacked against the incumbent.
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si_cheki_ovyo_ovyo
#40 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 8:31:03 AM
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For Sport wrote:
Solomonic wisdom...tow mothers fighting over a baby. I wonder how the baby is doing.


Baby? What baby? One of the women now wants to stab and kill the other woman.

It was not about the baby. It has never been about the baby. It will never be about the baby. At least to one of the women.
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