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Earnings Suprise Zone
VituVingiSana
#31 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 12:31:36 PM
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@thedeal - LOLest... Ati, Mombasa shuttle was meant to hoodwink us with passenger numbers! Domestic travel is the 'smallest' portion of KQ's business. The intra-Africa is the main one. Europe is also big. Asia is #3 [esp China & Dubai]
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#32 Posted : Friday, February 18, 2011 1:51:53 PM
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guru267 wrote:
....I don't think equity and co op share prices will do anything because there is way too much factoring into the share price... Guys owning these stocks will have to wait for Q1 2011 results


Dumped Equity today at 28.75. Hope to pick it up again after announcement, or balance portfolio by loading KPLC at sub 20.
synergia
#33 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 3:13:01 PM
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the deal wrote:
there is someone on wazua who said he cant touch KQ because of the hedges...he said he is an accountant...where are you....what did the KQ management mean when they said they have adopted short revolving hedges...i think this mombasa shuttle where they dont makeThe money was created to hoodwink us with passenger numbers...i expect bz year end for overheads to shoot through the roof..can they retrench or make a salary freeze cos the margins are getting lower...


I was the one who said that the KQ figures dont look good at all.

The problem with most guyz is that they always focus on revenues and EBITDEA while making investments descisions and yet in real sense its the EATOS and the dividend yield that actually matters.

By the management telling us that the have adopted short revolving hedges they simply mean that they have opted to take hedges that are of a short tenure and when it matures its booked again thus the revolving nature.
Previously the hedges KQ were taking were long term in nature thus it was very hard to renegotiate with the financiers incase there were major changes in the price per barrel of oil therefore they had no option than to bear the loss in case of a major price flactuation below the hedge price and thats why KQ would make big hedge loses.
However with the short revolving hedges ,which was a good move if i may add ,i expect that KQ "MAY" be able to reduce there hedge losses.

But in my opinion the costs that KQ incurrs are quite high and i expect them to increase even further considering that the fuel price is increasing and also with their expansion strategy for sure the wage cost will be no joke and considering that it takes quite sometime before a route break evens and starts making profit i see tough times ahead for KQ.

This share is definately for the strong hearted.
youcan'tstopusnow
#34 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 6:24:32 PM
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Hii EATOS ni mnyama gani? I googled and this is the closest I got: Environmental Assessment Tool for Organic SynthesesSadSaidia
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synergia
#35 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:52:12 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Hii EATOS ni mnyama gani? I googled and this is the closest I got: Environmental Assessment Tool for Organic SynthesesSadSaidia

Earnings Attributable to Ordinary Shareholders.(EATOS)
This are the earnings that will be distributed to shareholders after retained earnings have been chucked from the Profits after tax.(PAT)
VituVingiSana
#36 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:53:56 AM
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synergia wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Hii EATOS ni mnyama gani? I googled and this is the closest I got: Environmental Assessment Tool for Organic SynthesesSadSaidia

Earnings Attributable to Ordinary Shareholders.(EATOS)
This are the earnings that will be distributed to shareholders after retained earnings have been chucked from the Profits after tax.(PAT)
Misinformation.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#37 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:38:34 PM
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Thats an Earning suprise from Barclays bank...it beat many analysts estimate...the share price should rally accordingly...albeit with caution
ProverB
#38 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:47:03 PM
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the deal wrote:
Thats an Earning suprise from Barclays bank...it beat many analysts estimate...the share price should rally accordingly...albeit with caution


Dude..i think it's the split factor affecting the price..not the earnings..
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:04:12 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
synergia wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Hii EATOS ni mnyama gani? I googled and this is the closest I got: Environmental Assessment Tool for Organic SynthesesSadSaidia

Earnings Attributable to Ordinary Shareholders.(EATOS)
This are the earnings that will be distributed to shareholders after retained earnings have been chucked from the Profits after tax.(PAT)
Misinformation.

Sounds like a dividend to me.ama? LOL!
VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:09:13 PM
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2 days ago... sellers abounded... Today, buyers are showing up... The Random Walk...

Now that the Uganda elections have been concluded peacefully & kibz got his behind caned by Raila, Wako, Mutula & the most important group Kenyan people... calm seems to have returned!

Now as kibz used to say... kazi iendelee...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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