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Manifest Nonsense!!!!
Rahatupu
#31 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:18:19 AM
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The heat is cooling off. By early next year the debate will be more sober than emotional. Those calling for disbandment of KNHRC, withdrawal of Kenya from ICC should as well call for dissolution of all our courts, right from Kadhi's (including Njuri nchekes etc), Magistracy, High Court etc. In short we should suspend the constitution, withdraw from the UN, EAC, all treaties, and dissolve all governance institutions.

This will enable us to revert to the Hobbesian State of "war" "....and such a war as is of every man against every man" without the hindrances and sanity provided for by these institutions.

We ought also to throw out through the widow the Lockian logic of Reason: That "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions"; and that transgressions of this may be punished.

Only when we are done with the slaughtering, raping,and all other transgression against each shall we rediscover true sanity and need for respect of our institutions of government.

I am disgusted!Sad
Ngalaka
#32 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:40:29 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
The heat is cooling off. By early next year the debate will be more sober than emotional. Those calling for disbandment of KNHRC, withdrawal of Kenya from ICC should as well call for dissolution of all our courts, right from Kadhi's (including Njuri nchekes etc), Magistracy, High Court etc. In short we should suspend the constitution, withdraw from the UN, EAC, all treaties, and dissolve all governance institutions.

This will enable us to revert to the Hobbesian State of "war" "....and such a war as is of every man against every man" without the hindrances and sanity provided for by these institutions.

We ought also to throw out through the widow the Lockian logic of Reason: That "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions"; and that transgressions of this may be punished.

Only when we are done with the slaughtering, raping,and all other transgression against each shall we rediscover true sanity and need for respect of our institutions of government.

I am disgusted!Sad



I hear you and identify with your very legitimate concerns albeit emotional.

It is pointless to start drumming for withdrawal from ICC.
In fact it even wont help the cause of those who so advocate, - that of cushioning their buddies from going through the ICC process.

We cannot be seeking to change laws every time our buddy is inconvenienced. We must always think of the larger good that is/will be served by the law.

Having said that, I think we should also understand those people who are dissatisfied with Ocampos handling of the KENYAN SITUATION.

It is quite in order for people to feel that justice will not be done given the route Ocampo has taken.

Remember the age old maxim that - justice should not only be done, but also be seen to be done.

Some in our number may have issues with certain omissions and inclusions in Ocampos list.

Again it is in order for people to hold the view that Ocampos presentation of his case to the Judges as seen in the net ,is clumsy, lousy and problematic.
That way he has unwittingly created an escape route for suspects who should otherwise be found culpable.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
YesuWangu
#33 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:13:13 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Put your foot in the suspect's shoes please!


I would crawl back to my hole under that rock in my homestead. And never speak again. Ever! d'oh! d'oh!
masukuma
#34 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:23:28 PM
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@muchknow, were kikuyu's who voted for ODM spared?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
jerry
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:58:06 PM
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Ocampo has learnt alot of 50:50 power sharing(&perfected it) and by balancing between PNU and ODM suspects he is sending a clear msg;tukubaliane sote tuko na makosa. Unless the prosecutor is recruited from among the IDPs! we are just buying time for reconcilliation the african style.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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