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Ericsson
#761 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2022 6:43:35 AM
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heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
This monkey company!
So much cash and liquid assets and absolutely no imagination on how to leverage this to increase value. They should have bought the Coke building for instance, that was such a fantastic deal for Jubilee. They should at least increase their exposure to cheap blue chip equities.
Instead they are all in cash and government securities.
And they have been bleeding market share for a couple of years now.
Last I checked it was down to 16% (even with the mandatory 20% mandate that Kenyan insurers get re-insured by them). Meanwhile in their non-Kenyan markets several countries establishing local re-insurers that will take even more of their business.
This is a great candidate for government divesture. Should come down from the current 60% to say 30%. Then it stands a chance. Otherwise it will remain a rich monkey whose true value will forever remain unlocked.

1) Needs GoK to reduce its stake below a strategic investor eg Safaricom as an example

2) Fire most of the board and management

3) Stop writing poor business. I feel there is something shady about the brokers they use. Very high commissions and loss-making business.

4) Stop any plans to add more real estate esp by building another office building. This will be riddled with corruption. Yields are low given the empty office/commercial space in Upper Hill. Perhaps residential but not if KenyaRe is running the show. At best a JV with a solid developer.
The land they can build real estate has disputes in court e.g
-Kiambu road with Kenyatta kin
-Ngong road with Kenya Forest service
-Shanzu land with Kenya Prisons
JV will even be riddled with greater corruption than them going solo.
As for the Upper Hill they can commence construction once Anniversary towers and Kenya Re Towers attain full occupancy.

5) Buy cheap stocks. SCBK, ABSA, BAT etc have dividend yields of 9%+ with potential growth vs 8% or lower real estate yields.

True here the current management has closed their ears and eyes in making such moves.Their portfolio in stocks should be 10% of their assets.


Will our new government change the fortunes of these non performing entities like Kenya Re?


Let's wait and see first the new parastatal heads to know the direction.
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#762 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:37:31 AM
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Kenya-Re is one that lends itself to lots of abuse. The cash can be raided simply by having the company buy land at grossly over-valued prices. It is an asset rich company that seems to have no guiding strategy. And they are losing market share each year. The best thing that can ever happen to Kenya-Re is for the government to divest, from current 60% to less than 30%. Its value can be optimised as a non-parastatal.
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#763 Posted : Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:41:12 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Kenya-Re is one that lends itself to lots of abuse. The cash can be raided simply by having the company buy land at grossly over-valued prices. It is an asset rich company that seems to have no guiding strategy. And they are losing market share each year. The best thing that can ever happen to Kenya-Re is for the government to divest, from current 60% to less than 30%. Its value can be optimised as a non-parastatal.


Kenya Re hasn't bought any land since 2003 not unless something changes.
They are heavy on idle land bought during the Moi regime and some have court cases and disputes.
They should exit reinsurance in India asap
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#764 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2022 7:30:55 AM
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One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
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#765 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:09:47 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.
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#766 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:53:02 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


I may just have to cut my losses and put the money in something more promising
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#767 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2022 12:33:29 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


His tenure is over, extending it further will be sending the wrong message on state corporations MD tenure
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#768 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2022 4:30:20 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


His tenure is over, extending it further will be sending the wrong message on state corporations MD tenure


Someone tells me he is not going anywhere . His contract was renewed
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#769 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2022 12:55:02 AM
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heri wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


His tenure is over, extending it further will be sending the wrong message on state corporations MD tenure


Someone tells me he is not going anywhere . His contract was renewed

It was a one year extension
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#770 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2022 11:18:51 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


kenya Re and Kengen giving me nightmares. Hoping for market recovery soon, just to get out without too much capital losses.
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#771 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2022 11:35:44 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


kenya Re and Kengen giving me nightmares. Hoping for market recovery soon, just to get out without too much capital losses.


The more I think about it, the more I realize Gladys being nominated to CS was nothing to do with her skills, it's just getting her out of the way.
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#772 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:06:14 AM
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xtina wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


kenya Re and Kengen giving me nightmares. Hoping for market recovery soon, just to get out without too much capital losses.


The more I think about it, the more I realize Gladys being nominated to CS was nothing to do with her skills, it's just getting her out of the way.


Who is Gladys?
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#773 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2022 7:08:34 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
One thing that is for sure Jadiah Mwarania will exit as MD Kenya Re in KK first term tenure.
Remember he was "fired" under the Chairman aligned with Rotich and DP.

I am worried for Kenya Re's cash.


kenya Re and Kengen giving me nightmares. Hoping for market recovery soon, just to get out without too much capital losses.


The extremely low dividend payout is what's pushing the share price for this counters down.
Kenya Re market share in its areas of operations is being taken away by new entrants.
The drought being experienced in the country will cause a dip in Kengen revenue due to low sales of hydroelectric power
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#774 Posted : Saturday, November 05, 2022 8:06:20 AM
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Does the new Treasury CS Prof Njuguna Ndungu has a strategy for turning making management changes at Kenya Re?
The share price is hitting lows never witnessed.
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#775 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 4:10:45 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Does the new Treasury CS Prof Njuguna Ndungu has a strategy for turning making management changes at Kenya Re?
The share price is hitting lows never witnessed.

Almost going sub 1 bob! A tragedy really

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#776 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 11:39:46 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Does the new Treasury CS Prof Njuguna Ndungu has a strategy for turning making management changes at Kenya Re?
The share price is hitting lows never witnessed.

Almost going sub 1 bob! A tragedy really


It has recovered and heading towards above ksh.2
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#777 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2023 7:38:45 PM
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A new dawn for Kenya Re as a new CEO is unveiled.
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#778 Posted : Friday, March 31, 2023 9:55:43 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
A new dawn for Kenya Re as a new CEO is unveiled.

Caution is not cowardice. I speak in code

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#779 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2023 7:48:09 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A new dawn for Kenya Re as a new CEO is unveiled.

Caution is not cowardice. I speak in code


Thank me later,I speak in parables
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#780 Posted : Wednesday, May 29, 2024 8:21:30 AM
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Have they announced fy2023 results. I don't seem to find the results anywhere 😕
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