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Russia Going to War with US over Ukraine?
jokes
#381 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 9:09:37 AM
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from the news i am getting this thing is not going well
kingfisher
#382 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 11:59:24 AM
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jokes wrote:
from the news i am getting this thing is not going well


which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors

1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here
2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!!
3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are.

If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!!
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murchr
#383 Posted : Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:47:28 PM
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Things in Eastern Ukraine are getting nasty by the minute. There's this misconstrued idea that war makes nations rich, yes it did that for America during the WWII because they were the suppliers of everything when industries went down but now, no country will grow while in war. I don't think the US will get heavily involved in this. Not with Russia, what benefit will they get anyway?

Putin says the reason why EU wants Ukraine is so that it can be turned into a farm land providing raw material for industry in Europe(kinda like what Africa is.)
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Ole Lenku
#384 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:05:39 AM
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Russia is officially in recession primarily due to the effect of the first round of sanctions. It's economy is expected to grow by 0.2% this year. From 200-2008 average was 6%, 2012 3.4% and in 2013 1.3%. This was clearly a country on the decline economically before the annexation of Crimea. The second round of sanctions from the US and EU are going to hasten their decline. If they do not back down, they will pay through the nose.
sparkly
#385 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:08:56 AM
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kingfisher wrote:
jokes wrote:
from the news i am getting this thing is not going well


which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors

1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here
2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!!
3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are.

If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!!


IMO Ukraine will fare best by turbing west. History repeats itself remember cold war Western Europe vs Eastern Europe typified by West-East Germany.
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B.Timer
#386 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:59:51 AM
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And now this;


http://www.bloomberg.com...members.html?cmpid=yhoo

Dunia ni msongamano..
jokes
#387 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:39:38 PM
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This is like watching a slow motion chess game
Obama is a poor chess player so far
tycho
#388 Posted : Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:40:15 AM
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jokes wrote:
This is like watching a slow motion chess game
Obama is a poor chess player so far


Obama may be playing poorly relative to Putin. But the whole game sucks.

Apparently not even the 'seperatists' have a clear end in mind. And neither will these moves they are making leave the nation states of the world secure or viable.
symbols
#389 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:12:36 AM
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murchr
#390 Posted : Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:16:57 AM
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symbols wrote:


1983 yet he sound like he's speaking of what is happening today
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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