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Why I reject the BBI
Amores
#371 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 6:30:12 PM
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@ Tycho, from where i stand,I think it is deceitful for UK and Raila to talk about BBI the way they are. If the main point is to unite the country, then they need a reset button. I give them the benefit of doubt and believe that they are in for the good of the country and not for theor econmic ad political interests ( tongue in cheek ) , then what they are doing is not fulfilling that. The start of the whole process was wrong and this i why we where we are we are. When you say Wanjiku aponyoke na yake, you know you are also talking of the ideal situation although we know that Wanjiku will be made to think what the politicians want them to think, after all, nobody can stop reggae. We know we are a young democracy, people are getting educated about their right and the agency that they possess. We are not there yet. So we get angry on twitter for a few hours and then get back to our daily tasks.
What is my point ? My point is, only Uhuru can stop this monster that he has created in the name of BBI and chart a new path. If we are talking about constitutional change,we need to do it sober environment, wananchi need to get educated and make their voice heard. Not the crazy madness that is gong on in the BBI rallies in the reading out resolutions


@ Muchr, i would not count the courts to rule BBI process as unconstitutional, you know vile hii manaeno inaenda. It will take a real miracle for UK and Raila not go get what they want. Question is, when they finally succeed, will that be good for Kenya, given the current climate? Will we be more united ? As it is, we have devolved government,and although some strides have been made,can we say devolving upwards will improve the lot of us wanjikus? Ama @Tycho, ni nini tunaponyoka nayo?

Wacha i tafuta my voters card :) smile
I am happy
AlphDoti
#372 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 6:55:35 PM
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Location: Kenya
2012 wrote:
Today, support for BBI has rewarded Sonko with access to his frozen bank accounts.

He has painted his Sonko rescue team lorries with BBI!!!
Amores
#373 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 7:47:14 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
Today, support for BBI has rewarded Sonko with access to his frozen bank accounts.

He has painted his Sonko rescue team lorries with BBI!!!


Sasa yeye ni safi kama pamba. Has joined the likes of Waiguru.
Motion ikija kwa senate, hakuna impeachment. Lets the revolving door keep going.
I am happy
Lolest!
#374 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 7:55:48 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Amores wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
Today, support for BBI has rewarded Sonko with access to his frozen bank accounts.

He has painted his Sonko rescue team lorries with BBI!!!


Sasa yeye ni safi kama pamba. Has joined the likes of Waiguru.
Motion ikija kwa senate, hakuna impeachment. Lets the revolving door keep going.

He had his sins washed at Capitol Hill Laundry
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
tycho
#375 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 11:24:42 PM
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Location: Nairobi
I believe BBI offers Wanjiku a number of things that are of such significance that we may need to consider it seriously:

1. The history of Kenya has been opened up at least theoretically. Wanjiku can now validly and freely contest for her identity

2. Utamaduni. Most of us may not see it now, but utamaduni is the only way out for Wanjiku in terms of economic and spiritual resources

3. Again, utamaduni offers technology perspectives that may change how parties and grassroots structures work. An example is how a party will convince a voter using data

These are just some of the things that Uhuru and Baba are willing to concede for their interests. And I like the deal! What's needed for Wanjiku is just to take these things seriously, and voila, light at the end of the tunnel.
tycho
#376 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2020 9:51:48 AM
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Our biggest mistake and weakness is dogged Westernization. Let me illustrate:

An individual needs to be socialized adequately enough to enable an optimal and communal life. This socialization needs to go with age, as a human develops psychic physiologically. Each age has its training, and the idea is that by the time one reaches the highest initiation rites one is able to see the big picture in life, one is facilitated to live well and can help others to live well. This was the case in the traditional set up, and every stage was open to all eligible members.

Compare and contrast with how we socialize ourselves and our children using Western standards. Nowadays one can die in dotage without figuring out what this life is about. What it means to be a man or woman, or even to think truly about gender. We look at employability and skill in labor as the measure for education and growth. Community is suppressed... Do you wonder why non communicable diseases are on the rise?

We are living in slavery, and by neglecting our traditional systems of thought and knowledge we are deliberately keeping ourselves in chains.

There are many occasions when we say that the peasant, or proletarian, or the 'unconsidered' like in post independent Kenya: has said that the elites cannot allow for the rise and empowerment of the masses. But what if the elites score an own goal as is the case?
sqft
#377 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2020 7:02:15 AM
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Moses Kuria Attacks Uhuru Again After BBI Speech in Washington

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Gatundu South MP, Moses Kuria, took to social media, to once again mock the BBI process, shortly after Uhuru delivered his keynote speech, on the motive behind the undertaking, during the Atlantic Council forum on Wednesday.

Referring to Uhuru’s statement, that the BBI was Kenya’s solution for the incessant culture of electoral disputes during polls, Kuria sarcastically corrected the head of state, asserting that the only solution for this menace would be for poll losers to concede defeat, subtly referring to Odinga.

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
murchr
#378 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2020 7:42:14 AM
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sqft wrote:
Moses Kuria Attacks Uhuru Again After BBI Speech in Washington

Quote:


Gatundu South MP, Moses Kuria, took to social media, to once again mock the BBI process, shortly after Uhuru delivered his keynote speech, on the motive behind the undertaking, during the Atlantic Council forum on Wednesday.

Referring to Uhuru’s statement, that the BBI was Kenya’s solution for the incessant culture of electoral disputes during polls, Kuria sarcastically corrected the head of state, asserting that the only solution for this menace would be for poll losers to concede defeat, subtly referring to Odinga.



He was right.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Euge
#379 Posted : Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:36:53 PM
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Location: Rupi
There was going to be a revolution. Baba was going to get us on the streets and it was going to be messy. The purpose of the handshake was to stop the revolution. Godec was the brain behind it. Without the handshake it was going to get messy. Would have been worse than it is for Kamwana's legacy. That's why Kamwana is so passionate about it. It saved him alot of headache and heartache. Ni hayo tu
Lord, thank you!
sqft
#380 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 2:18:02 PM
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Ruto vows to stop reggae.

https://www.the-star.co....bbi-we-will-stop-reggae/
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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