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The KenolKobil 2015 pendulum
Spikes
#741 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:31:58 PM
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@Sparkly I know there are many apps for snooping into other users' type of gadgets!
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sparkly
#742 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:34:54 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Most likely we are expecting an interim dividend of 20cts and a final 30cts this year,but with the office complex project stopped, you can't rule out a surprise special dividend smile

The "Office Project" was a 2-3 year project. I would rather KK spent the cash making (sensible) acquisitions, revamp the stations and build competitive advantages for the future.

In other words... put on make-up to get hitched Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



If an announcement of acquisition and other peripheral projects that add value come up, I will jump in as quickly as practicable without waiting for a plunge in price.


@Spikes kuwanga serious and buy some investments. Your Techno smart phone does not count as an investment Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You're dealing with a senior business correspondent...watch your words @Sparkly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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jerry
#743 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 12:57:26 AM
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Spikes wrote:
@Sparkly I know there are many apps for snooping into other users' type of gadgets!

@Sparkly and @Spikes must be twins!!
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gatoho
#744 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 6:06:01 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Most likely we are expecting an interim dividend of 20cts and a final 30cts this year,but with the office complex project stopped, you can't rule out a surprise special dividend smile

The "Office Project" was a 2-3 year project. I would rather KK spent the cash making (sensible) acquisitions, revamp the stations and build competitive advantages for the future.

In other words... put on make-up to get hitched Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



If an announcement of acquisition and other peripheral projects that add value come up, I will jump in as quickly as practicable without waiting for a plunge in price.

Typically, when an acquisition of a listed firm is announced, the trading of its shares is suspended. I do not know what you mean by 'peripheral projects' in this case.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Whenever I read a comment I easily know it's spike without checking on who commented. Many misplaced vocabularies/ financial terms

I think practicable is actually a word. Just spoken I think
Foresight..
sparkly
#745 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 6:24:33 AM
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jerry wrote:
Spikes wrote:
@Sparkly I know there are many apps for snooping into other users' type of gadgets!

@Sparkly and @Spikes must be twins!!


Twins of same father but different mothers
Life is short. Live passionately.
Boris Boyka
#746 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 6:42:16 AM
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gatoho wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Most likely we are expecting an interim dividend of 20cts and a final 30cts this year,but with the office complex project stopped, you can't rule out a surprise special dividend smile

The "Office Project" was a 2-3 year project. I would rather KK spent the cash making (sensible) acquisitions, revamp the stations and build competitive advantages for the future.

In other words... put on make-up to get hitched Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



If an announcement of acquisition and other peripheral projects that add value come up, I will jump in as quickly as practicable without waiting for a plunge in price.

Typically, when an acquisition of a listed firm is announced, the trading of its shares is suspended. I do not know what you mean by 'peripheral projects' in this case.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Whenever I read a comment I easily know it's spike without checking on who commented. Many misplaced vocabularies/ financial terms

I think practicable is actually a word. Just spoken I think

How did you arrive at your statement @gatoho? Thought my comment is general while I highlighted the whole statement of jumping!
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#747 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 11:22:43 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is what happens to a share when many speculators get out,its stable even without much demand.



True and now there's hidden demand unlike hidden supply before


When hidden demand drama disappears, Mr. bear is expected to ruthlessly drown KK to bottom out mark 8/- .

You can always tell posts by @Spikes without checking who posted!!!

Unjustified and unexplained negativity and pessimism.
Ati amejiita nini?? Senior Business Correspondent?? Woi!!! Even by Kenyan (very low) standards, hapana!!!

Reminds me of a line from a black uhuru (I think) song. "If you are sitting in a market place and you are neither a buyer or seller... you will find yourself being subject to bought or sold".
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Spikes
#748 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 11:38:47 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is what happens to a share when many speculators get out,its stable even without much demand.



True and now there's hidden demand unlike hidden supply before


When hidden demand drama disappears, Mr. bear is expected to ruthlessly drown KK to bottom out mark 8/- .

You can always tell posts by @Spikes by without checking who posted!!!

Unjustified and unexplained negativity and pessimism.
Ati amejiita nini?? Senior Business Correspondent?? Woi!!! Even by Kenyan (very low) standards, hapana!!!

Reminds me of a line from a black uhuru (I think) song. "If you are sitting in a market place and you are neither a buyer or seller... you will find yourself being subject to bought or sold".



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Realtreaty
#749 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:21:14 PM
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mlennyma
#750 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:09:13 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion
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Aguytrying
#751 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:46:59 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist
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#752 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:52:51 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist


Aguy you made me click on that link

BD wrote:
The auditor-general says that a Sh4.1 billion debt that oil marketer KenolKobil has owed Kenya Pipeline Company for years should be provided for in the State corporation’s books as a doubtful claim.

“The balance of Sh10.6 billion as at 30th June includes an a mount of Sh4.1 billion due from an oil marketing company, dating back to year 2009 that is subject of a court dispute. It has not been possible to confirm whether or when the company will be able to recover the amounts due from the oil company,” Mr Ouko said on his audit opinion for KPC for the year ended June 30, 2016.


Am lost Pray
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Gatheuzi
#753 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:58:07 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist


Very true @Aguy. The Auditor General (or perhaps the reporter).

Quote:

Auditor-general Edward Ouko: "It has not been possible to confirm whether or when the company will be able to recover the amounts due from the oil company".
Auditor-general Edward Ouko: "It has not been possible to confirm whether or when the company will be able to recover the amounts due from the oil company".
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mlennyma
#754 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:23:54 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#755 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:29:36 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk



I think the writer doesn't know English precisely .
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
jerry
#756 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:45:49 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk



I think the writer doesn't know English precisely .

Wapi linki ya hiyo stori?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
mlennyma
#757 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:06:03 AM
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jerry wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk



I think the writer doesn't know English precisely .

Wapi linki ya hiyo stori?

below haki yetu,the first post by @realtreaty
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Gatheuzi
#758 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:59:53 PM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk



I think the writer doesn't know English precisely .

It could also be the accountant who might have misread the judgement and took it to be in favour of KPC. He went ahead and booked revenue and a recoverable from KK. Now the auditor has discovered this and instead of admitting the error, he pretends that KPC has a doubtful claim that needs to be reclassified. Welcome to Kenya.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
mlennyma
#759 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:45:41 PM
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And to make the whole story bullshit,in the same report he is mis-reporting he refers us to read the topic below which it appears definitely he has not read himself......

READ: KenolKobil wins Sh4.6bn award in case against KPC
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
murchr
#760 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:18:26 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:

just asking, does Kk use kpc to transport its oil products? if yes they need to be given 20yrs free transport to recover their debt..suggestion


When I read that article. It's sounds like it's KPC who is owed??? Or its the journalist

since we know the history of this thing, the writer of this article either doesn't know English or he is lost,it misleads kpc has some money to recover from kk



I think the writer doesn't know English precisely .

It could also be the accountant who might have misread the judgement and took it to be in favour of KPC. He went ahead and booked revenue and a recoverable from KK. Now the auditor has discovered this and instead of admitting the error, he pretends that KPC has a doubtful claim that needs to be reclassified. Welcome to Kenya.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So many inconsistencies in this article.

Quote:
It has not been possible to confirm whether or when the company will be able to recover the amounts due from the oil company,” Mr Ouko said on his audit opinion for KPC for the year ended June 30, 2016.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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