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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
maka
#7501 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:57:22 AM
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Paul Kasimu back as HR director ...
possunt quia posse videntur
Jitahidi
#7502 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:18:33 AM
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maka wrote:
Paul Kasimu back as HR director ...

Evidence?
maka
#7503 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:50:18 PM
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Jitahidi wrote:
maka wrote:
Paul Kasimu back as HR director ...

Evidence?


You shouldn't ask for such...he was at EABL right?Lucy Muhiu was acting.
possunt quia posse videntur
hisah
#7504 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36:56 PM
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As expected 7.00 to 8.00 tough resistance zone is rejecting the bulls advance intraday. This will take vigorous bid power to breakdown that resistance.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#7505 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:19:07 PM
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hisah wrote:
As expected 7.00 to 8.00 tough resistance zone is rejecting the bulls advance intraday. This will take vigorous bid power to breakdown that resistance.

That zone will be broken sooner than soon. The weaker traders are selling off at exactly the wrong time

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#7506 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:03:12 PM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Liv wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
From tomorrow KQ shall remain on high steroids upto 29.06.2017.. I have placed all my bets on this one. Let's see how it goes



Tomorrow has arrived.
Wapi high steroids?

Lol. A trading day is judged at the end


Mkt has closed and the counter has traded flat.


Its normal



I guess this is heading to 5.90 again

That is a pipe dream, but if it happens; intelligent investors should buy more.. Any price below KES 10 is a steal

@vvs and @ericsson need to say something. I miss them and their misguided comments


@Obiero
I'm watching
I see today we are down 5 cents
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obiero
#7507 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:12:05 PM
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1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#7508 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:33:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

Today will undoubtedly show the direction of this stock! Huge volume is not 100% assurance of a rally. It can also mean the end of the rally.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
hisah
#7509 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:40:13 AM
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Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

Today will undoubtedly show the direction of this stock! Huge volume is not 100% assurance of a rally. It can also mean the end of the rally.

In the trading world huge vol at resistance can also mean absorption that is done to clear supply before bulls can continue.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#7510 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:47:38 AM
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hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

Today will undoubtedly show the direction of this stock! Huge volume is not 100% assurance of a rally. It can also mean the end of the rally.

In the trading world huge vol at resistance can also mean absorption that is done to clear supply before bulls can continue.

@hisah thank you for schooling our brother.. this rally is tied to two upcoming big announcements by KQ, not the arrival of Mikosz

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#7511 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:46:08 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Afroblk wrote:
One of the many counters worth dumping loads of cash...returns will be insane...how low do you think this will go? Probably not much lower than current rates. I only have one hope with KQ...direct flights to US. As long as those pigs in parliament can pass that bill and open the terminal, Kenya will be accorded the much awaited category 1 once the FAA conducts the inspection. Honestly I can't wait to get some returns and exit without looking back...I've been patient for a while and haven't sold even a single share...I'm even tired on buying...how much can one accumulate l0l I know CFC guys be like, here he goes again..l0l


15 years ago KQ used to trade at 5.50-7.00 range. Stock is now below that price not because of splits or bonuses, having done a rights issue!

Learn from history. History says that airlines in general and KQ in particular are bad investments. Be smart.

@sparkly.. U forgot to tell us that it also traded at KES 126.. To each his own, if airlines were bad investments, then planes wldnt be built, we wldnt have airports.. Seems simplistic, but it is altruist. It depends on the strategy of the airline, otherwise, people like Branson and Buffet wldnt own Virgin & Jetways

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Kusoma ni bure.

http://www.wsj.com/artic...a-rare-pinch-1420485740
NetJets Unrest Puts Warren Buffett in a Rare Pinch
Pilots Protest Against Pay, Benefits at Berkshire Hathaway’s NetJets

"In the case of NetJets, the pressure to complete the turnaround of a business Mr. Buffett once called his “number one worry” is now spilling into public view."

"In the 16 years that Berkshire has owned NetJets, the jet operator has never paid its owner a dividend, and its net worth is considerably less than the $725 million Berkshire paid for it in 1998" This was from a 2015 article. WB would have been better off putting the money in the bank!

"worsened amid extended contract negotiations with multiple unions representing pilots, flight attendants, mechanics and others. NetJets, based in Columbus, Ohio, has about 6,200 employees, a majority of whom belong to unions."

"NetJets took a major hit during the financial crisis as wealthy clients cut back on private flying, surviving only because Berkshire guaranteed its $1.9 billion debt load."

1) NetJets isn't an 'airline' as much as Uber [which owns planes].
2)NetJets is a pain for WB. Not one of his best performers. Too much drama.
3) No dividends. It has had negative cashflow in many years.
4) Despite all this is has a POSITIVE equity/capital whereas KQ has NEGATIVE capital.

"Everyone but shareholders made money off KQ." True or False?




I wish I could pull up the discussion where VVS swore that Buffet would never touch an airline stock.

Well only fools dont change their minds

American Airlines, Southwest, Delta, United

Quote:
Berkshire also reported a $9.3 billion airline stake, with investments topping $2.1 billion in each of American Airlines Group Inc (AAL.O), Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N), Southwest Airlines Co (LUV.N) and United Continental Holdings Inc (UAL.N).


He also gets into technology APPLe- 57.4 million shares of Apple as of Dec. 31. At one time he wouldnt touch any of them apart from IBM ofcourse

Again, only fools and dead men don't change their minds.

Good morning!


Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger are brilliant chaps. I understand why they would buy Delta, SWA, AA or even United. So I looked at KQ again.
No, KQ is no Delta. Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

KQ could have been Delta but the "real owners" blew it.

8 March 2017. I speak in code.


KQ is where AA was 3 years ago, they will pull through but the myth that Buffett would never touch airline stock is busted. I guess he threw away the 800 number. Only fools and dead men don't change their minds.

To all holding KQ. All the best.

Huge negative equity & debts hobble KQ. Didn't AA go through restructuring under bankruptcy hence wiping out the debt?

Even if KQ makes 5bn per year, without new shareholder capital, it will take 7 years to get to zero capital. Good luck.

We are not in here upto 7 years from now. Tunaokota pesa this year tukielekea. Traders not investors

Utaelekea wapi @obiero. Lots of talk here. Buying kq is like buying mayai ya sino ndio upelekee gachechi(kienyeji hen) yako for Hutching. Hot air. Buying hope is not an investment strategy. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Now @vvs mentor increases stake in South West and flyAA http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18B2LH

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#7512 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:55:49 AM
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Yes! Both are solidly profitable firms. I may look at KQ after it is recapitalized i.e. the -ve equity is wiped out. Currently I am buying KK & banks.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#7513 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:44:38 AM
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China Woos Kenya To Buy Its Aircraft In Exchange for More Routes For Kenya Airways
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
muandiwambeu
#7514 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:34:42 AM
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obiero wrote:
1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

I think I have a new cue here, obierod, or say obieromania, or say tullipmania. Whatever you choose will work good for the otherLaughing out loudly smile
Please @obiero no offence taken.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#7515 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:16:27 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
1.7m shares landed in the hands of the realists today.. Demand is building up. The rally of a lifetime

I think I have a new cue here, obierod, or say obieromania, or say tullipmania. Whatever you choose will work good for the otherLaughing out loudly smile
Please @obiero no offence taken.

LOL

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#7516 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:23:49 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
China Woos Kenya To Buy Its Aircraft In Exchange for More Routes For Kenya Airways

Yikes! Shouldn't we let them test them out for a few years first?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#7517 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:32:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
China Woos Kenya To Buy Its Aircraft In Exchange for More Routes For Kenya Airways

Yikes! Shouldn't we let them test them out for a few years first?

Extremely bad decisions up there by the two men

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
actuarywahisa
#7518 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:52:14 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
China Woos Kenya To Buy Its Aircraft In Exchange for More Routes For Kenya Airways


The operations manual will be in chinese. Laughing out loudly
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Ericsson
#7519 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:02:47 PM
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https://www.ft.com/conte...-11e7-99bd-13beb0903fa3

"But the C919 is still 10-15 years out of date, compared to the latest versions of the A320 and Boeing 737, meaning it will probably cost more to run".
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Flo-ology
#7520 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:35:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
China Woos Kenya To Buy Its Aircraft In Exchange for More Routes For Kenya Airways

Yikes! Shouldn't we let them test them out for a few years first?

Extremely bad decisions up there by the two men


@Obiero; Is this the reason this stock has lost almost 10% today? I thought you said upward rally is the only option
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