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ArrestedDev
#7401 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 1:16:36 AM
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Restructuring now begins. Most of you will start seeing things never seen before being done. Watch this space.

Turnaround officially begins.
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ArrestedDev
#7402 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 2:01:52 AM
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obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close


Ngunze is not close at all. He has no proven track record.

You can now see the stark difference.

Just wait for serious steps to be rolled out. Ngunze was just relying on MCkinsey.
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Ebenyo
#7403 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 5:42:50 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Chaka]How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close



As much as the choice may look credible, but how does it potray our abilities as kenyans? we cant make up for our own mess unless foreigners come? mzungu amejaribu mumias imezindikana.Lets hope this one succeeds.

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obiero
#7404 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 7:12:04 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Chaka]How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close



As much as the choice may look credible, but how does it potray our abilities as kenyans? we cant make up for our own mess unless foreigners come? mzungu amejaribu mumias imezindikana.Lets hope this one succeeds.


Now both KAA and KQ are under Scandinavian authority.. Expect efficiency

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#7405 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 9:32:53 AM
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Waiting to see today's high. Will it knock off 6.80, the upper bollinger band level?
Seems like the stock actually bottomed at 3.30 in September 2016.Last correction only managed a 4.60 in Feb 2017



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#7406 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:26:01 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Waiting to see today's high. Will it knock off 6.80, the upper bollinger band level?
Seems like the stock actually bottomed at 3.30 in September 2016.Last correction only managed a 4.60 in Feb 2017







6.45 and 6.80 are very important points

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Ericsson
#7407 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:30:53 AM
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LOT Airlines is also struggling and facing issues such as being cash-strapped and loss making.
Let's wait to see if the new CEO will succeed at KQ

@Ebenyo
Kenyan CEOs you can get but aren't interested because of the politics involved.
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Pesa Nane
#7408 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:37:24 AM
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obiero wrote:

Now both KAA and KQ are under Scandinavian authority.. Expect efficiency


Shame on you Liar
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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VituVingiSana
#7409 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:38:02 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Chaka]How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close



As much as the choice may look credible, but how does it potray our abilities as kenyans? we cant make up for our own mess unless foreigners come? mzungu amejaribu mumias imezindikana.Lets hope this one succeeds.


Now both KAA and KQ are under Scandinavian authority.. Expect efficiency

Both under Scandinavians? Please explain.
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actuarywahisa
#7410 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:46:59 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close


Ngunze is not close at all. He has no proven track record.

You can now see the stark difference.

Just wait for serious steps to be rolled out. Ngunze was just relying on MCkinsey.


@ArrestedDev... you may be the next Ngunze in another setting, it's good to give people a chance. I think the problem was Naikuni and the Ambassador. Mr. Ngunze inherited a company in trouble, though he himself might not have been entirely blameless because he was also an insider during Naikuni's reign.

As they say hindsight is always 20:20. I think looking back it would have been better to imagine the worst going forward, that KQ would dive deeper into losses if the situation was not arrested. Subsequently, have an external guy as Group CEO to give a fresh outsiders perspective and then have Ngunze as deputy CEO for a few years with him eventually taking over.

Surely, a proper succession and business continuity model should be championed by the government for some of these strategic corporations.

One thing which we have to learn as Kenyans is INTEGRITY! That's not to say that foreigners are perfect. I think it would be naive to think that they are perfect. Corruption is so rampant and a lack of INTEGRITY will continue to limit our achievements.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
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ArrestedDev
#7411 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 10:59:05 AM
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actuarywahisa wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
How many Kenyans applied for that job and who applied?If that jamaa speaks 4 languages then he is quadrilingual?

Unfortunately no Kenyan has the kind of turnaround experience that is needed at KQ. Only Mbuvi possessed something close


Ngunze is not close at all. He has no proven track record.

You can now see the stark difference.

Just wait for serious steps to be rolled out. Ngunze was just relying on MCkinsey.


@ArrestedDev... you may be the next Ngunze in another setting, it's good to give people a chance. I think the problem was Naikuni and the Ambassador. Mr. Ngunze inherited a company in trouble, though he himself might not have been entirely blameless because he was also an insider during Naikuni's reign.

As they say hindsight is always 20:20. I think looking back it would have been better to imagine the worst going forward, that KQ would dive deeper into losses if the situation was not arrested. Subsequently, have an external guy as Group CEO to give a fresh outsiders perspective and then have Ngunze as deputy CEO for a few years with him eventually taking over.

Surely, a proper succession and business continuity model should be championed by the government for some of these strategic corporations.

One thing which we have to learn as Kenyans is INTEGRITY! That's not to say that foreigners are perfect. I think it would be naive to think that they are perfect. Corruption is so rampant and a lack of INTEGRITY will continue to limit our achievements.


Ngunze has been part and parcel of KQ woes. There is no difference between him and TN.
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ArrestedDev
#7412 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 11:03:12 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
LOT Airlines is also struggling and facing issues such as being cash-strapped and loss making.
Let's wait to see if the new CEO will succeed at KQ

@Ebenyo
Kenyan CEOs you can get but aren't interested because of the politics involved.

The fellow knows what turnaround is all about. He was removed from LOT and given back the job again.
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Ericsson
#7413 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 11:12:05 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
LOT Airlines is also struggling and facing issues such as being cash-strapped and loss making.
Let's wait to see if the new CEO will succeed at KQ

@Ebenyo
Kenyan CEOs you can get but aren't interested because of the politics involved.

The fellow knows what turnaround is all about. He was removed from LOT and given back the job again.



Let's wait and see.
the key to KQ recovery will be managing costs and increasing passenger numbers.
Let's give him time and chance to see whether he'll manage to achieve the two.
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Spikes
#7414 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 12:05:06 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Waiting to see today's high. Will it knock off 6.80, the upper bollinger band level?
Seems like the stock actually bottomed at 3.30 in September 2016.Last correction only managed a 4.60 in Feb 2017







6.45 and 6.80 are very important points

Expert opinion please @Karasinga. Is this stock likely to face a dense forest of supply at this range 6.45-6.8?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Metasploit
#7415 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 12:51:39 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Waiting to see today's high. Will it knock off 6.80, the upper bollinger band level?
Seems like the stock actually bottomed at 3.30 in September 2016.Last correction only managed a 4.60 in Feb 2017







6.45 and 6.80 are very important points

Expert opinion please @Karasinga. Is this stock likely to face a dense forest of supply at this range 6.45-6.8?

6.4-6.8 is a serious supply point

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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#7416 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 12:53:56 PM
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#7417 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 1:16:35 PM
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impulsive wave heading north completely wiped out.
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#7418 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 2:05:26 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Waiting to see today's high. Will it knock off 6.80, the upper bollinger band level?
Seems like the stock actually bottomed at 3.30 in September 2016.Last correction only managed a 4.60 in Feb 2017







6.45 and 6.80 are very important points

Building a course. Short term still bullish against 3.30 (all time low) and 4.50 support level. Medium term the gauges are turning neutral. Bulls need to take out solid resistance around 7 and 8.00 zone to force medium term to start turning bullish with the next target being 9.20 to 10.00 handle. Long term bulls have a long way to go with 14.00 handle (rights issue price) as a formidable barrier then a multi-year barrier zone from 17.50 to the 20.00 psychological handle.

Captain @obiero the best the bulls can do is a steady rally. If they force a hard rally, the correction on those price gap ups will be hard as those gaps (air pockets) get filled for the next ride.

TA fans also note we have a Rising Three Methods candlestick pattern on the weekly chart between February and March which implies bullish continuation.



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actuarywahisa
#7419 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 2:10:16 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
LOT Airlines is also struggling and facing issues such as being cash-strapped and loss making.
Let's wait to see if the new CEO will succeed at KQ

@Ebenyo
Kenyan CEOs you can get but aren't interested because of the politics involved.

The fellow knows what turnaround is all about. He was removed from LOT and given back the job again.



Let's wait and see.
the key to KQ recovery will be managing costs and increasing passenger numbers.
Let's give him time and chance to see whether he'll manage to achieve the two.


Yep. The proof of the pudding is in the eating....
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
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#7420 Posted : Friday, May 05, 2017 2:58:47 PM
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As much as the choice may look credible, but how does it potray our abilities as kenyans? we cant make up for our own mess unless foreigners come? mzungu amejaribu mumias imezindikana.Lets hope this one succeeds.

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Mumias would only change if wazuans bought shares and owned the whole operation, sijui nani anaeza kua CEO hapo
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