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hardwood wrote:washiku wrote:KulaRaha wrote:hardwood wrote:
Whatever you want to say. But me as wanjiko I cant afford to pay a doctor 1m. Cant afford, cant pay, wont pay.
We know, 527/= barely pays for tweeting etc, how can you pay doctors? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL  The same people who protest when the govt tells them to pay their house girls minimum wage of 12k are the same ones running around saying doctors must be paid 1m. Can they sort their domestic matters first before commenting on national issues like docs pay. I'm trying to figure out which is funnier. The 527 or being told not to comment on national issues. I guess only kameme listeners should comment... Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Don't quite see why any reasonable person would want to demonise the Doctors. We have seen their asking terms;- They have also indicated that they are ready for give and take harmonisation. On the other hand - just what is the employers counter proposal?! If any, how reasonable is it?! Going back to the CBA doc as above was it negotiated by the parties - with the employer(s) present and participating and presumably agreeing! We heard from proceedings in court that the only part that was due was registering the CBA doc in Court as required. Hence, assuming that to be the true position, is one party now reneging on matters already discussed and agreed upon! Can Mailu and Co. come clean on these issues! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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hardwood wrote:KulaRaha wrote:hardwood wrote:
Whatever you want to say. But me as wanjiko I cant afford to pay a doctor 1m. Cant afford, cant pay, wont pay.
We know, 527/= barely pays for tweeting etc, how can you pay doctors? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Since health is devolved you can pay your doctors kwa county 1m. Lakini mimi ng'o... You need to remember that most county cash comes from your kawa KRA taxes
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:hardwood wrote:KulaRaha wrote:hardwood wrote:
Whatever you want to say. But me as wanjiko I cant afford to pay a doctor 1m. Cant afford, cant pay, wont pay.
We know, 527/= barely pays for tweeting etc, how can you pay doctors? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Since health is devolved you can pay your doctors kwa county 1m. Lakini mimi ng'o... You need to remember that most county cash comes from your kawa KRA taxes Paid bloggers are not allowed to think like that
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Ngalaka wrote:Don't quite see why any reasonable person would want to demonise the Doctors. We have seen their asking terms;- They have also indicated that they are ready for give and take harmonisation. On the other hand - just what is the employers counter proposal?! If any, how reasonable is it?! Going back to the CBA doc as above was it negotiated by the parties - with the employer(s) present and participating and presumably agreeing! We heard from proceedings in court that the only part that was due was registering the CBA doc in Court as required. Hence, assuming that to be the true position, is one party now reneging on matters already discussed and agreed upon! Can Mailu and Co. come clean on these issues! They are blackmailing us
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Ngalaka wrote:Don't quite see why any reasonable person would want to demonise the Doctors.We have seen their asking terms;- They have also indicated that they are ready for give and take harmonisation. On the other hand - just what is the employers counter proposal?! If any, how reasonable is it?! Going back to the CBA doc as above was it negotiated by the parties - with the employer(s) present and participating and presumably agreeing! We heard from proceedings in court that the only part that was due was registering the CBA doc in Court as required. Hence, assuming that to be the true position, is one party now reneging on matters already discussed and agreed upon! Can Mailu and Co. come clean on these issues! Strong yet ironic words there, Ngalaka. Pray tell, where is the humanity in you if you have the know-how to treat someone but you decide not to and let him/her DIE. Picture someone going through the entire process of dying to the end and you with all your skills and expertise do NOTHING. Yet you complain you are tired of seeing people dying. It would be different if you let him/her get a little bit sicker but did not complete the process of dying, or if you knew nothing. No one is demonising the doctors. They are doing it by themselves, causing anguish and grief to sons, daughters, wives, husbands, mothers and fathers.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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alma1 wrote:hardwood wrote:alma1 wrote:Hardwood. Wewe na kameme endeleeni kulia...
Madaktari wako dab!
I thought they should have rushed to the negotiation table as ordered by the appeal court judges, and not showing dance moves at Ohuru park. Let them dance and join baba in rallies then after the 7 days they say they dont have an agreement and start blaming mulagoli. The judges will put them back to kamiti. tik tok.... eish boss. they will serve 27 days when they are sent back to kamiti...Mandela serve decades....Baba served years...Jomo served years....only cowards try to scare people with jail... Anyway, let me go to other online forums...Kenyan bootlicking is just too much for one day. Should we also expect a dis-track rap music video from them, now that they have been to prison and back, brave men and of valor?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Don't quite see why any reasonable person would want to demonise the Doctors.We have seen their asking terms;- They have also indicated that they are ready for give and take harmonisation. On the other hand - just what is the employers counter proposal?! If any, how reasonable is it?! Going back to the CBA doc as above was it negotiated by the parties - with the employer(s) present and participating and presumably agreeing! We heard from proceedings in court that the only part that was due was registering the CBA doc in Court as required. Hence, assuming that to be the true position, is one party now reneging on matters already discussed and agreed upon! Can Mailu and Co. come clean on these issues! Strong yet ironic words there, Ngalaka. Pray tell, where is the humanity in you if you have the know-how to treat someone but you decide not to and let him/her DIE. Picture someone going through the entire process of dying to the end and you with all your skills and expertise do NOTHING. Yet you complain you are tired of seeing people dying. It would be different if you let him/her get a little bit sicker but did not complete the process of dying, or if you knew nothing. No one is demonising the doctors. They are doing it by themselves, causing anguish and grief to sons, daughters, wives, husbands, mothers and fathers. Mixing up issues - deliberately - in order to muddy the waters! Lets be objective for heavens sake! This is a matter of workers agitating for better terms. Quite apart from humanitarian issues. Heck, nothing has stopped you and I from jumping in on humanitarian grounds to pick those in dire need (like the case you highlighted earlier on this thread) and pay for them to get medical attention in Nairobi hospital or abroad! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Don't quite see why any reasonable person would want to demonise the Doctors.We have seen their asking terms;- They have also indicated that they are ready for give and take harmonisation. On the other hand - just what is the employers counter proposal?! If any, how reasonable is it?! Going back to the CBA doc as above was it negotiated by the parties - with the employer(s) present and participating and presumably agreeing! We heard from proceedings in court that the only part that was due was registering the CBA doc in Court as required. Hence, assuming that to be the true position, is one party now reneging on matters already discussed and agreed upon! Can Mailu and Co. come clean on these issues! Strong yet ironic words there, Ngalaka. Pray tell, where is the humanity in you if you have the know-how to treat someone but you decide not to and let him/her DIE. Picture someone going through the entire process of dying to the end and you with all your skills and expertise do NOTHING. Yet you complain you are tired of seeing people dying. It would be different if you let him/her get a little bit sicker but did not complete the process of dying, or if you knew nothing. No one is demonising the doctors. They are doing it by themselves, causing anguish and grief to sons, daughters, wives, husbands, mothers and fathers. Liike I said elsewhere Doctors and Nurses are called to their profession so when they decide to commercialize it they become the aggressors in this matter. And this is not to say they do not deserve better but lets negotiate as they continue taking care of the sick.Better health care for all will not happen overnight. From the speeches last night its all about money.Infact they said they want it in arrears. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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