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Equity Bank unveils its MVNO strategy
murchr
#361 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2014 5:53:51 PM
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Posts: 15,980
meme wrote:
murchr wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
murchr wrote:


Mpesa is cheaper numbers dont lie


You may want to ask for a refund from whoever taught you Maths.

Here are the numbers:

SAFARICOM - MPESA to MPESA CHARGES

To send Ksh 10 to 2500 Will cost you from Ksh 1 to 40

To send Ksh 2501 to 70,000 Will cost you from Ksh 55 to 110

PROPOSED EQUITY MVNO CHARGES

To send Ksh 10 to 2500 Will cost you from Ksh 0.1 to 25 (1%)

To send Ksh 2501 to 70,000 Will cost you a flat fee of Ksh 25

To send any amount from Equity to Equity will cost ZERO



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Applause Applause Ok you win, the thing is SAfcon is working with known and tested data, so they know where the majority of those transacting lie and how they do it.

10 - 49 = 1
50 - 100 = 3
101 - 500 = 11
501 - 1,000 = 15
1,001 - 1,500 = 25

The rest dont care because they probably dont use it that oftenly anyway. Even YU charged "0" on their calls but they packed up and left. Equity should also brace themselves for the fight IF this thing takes off. And am for it dont get me wrong afterall the users get to gain.

Thats whyere you are wrong. Its not that WE dont care... We did not have a choice! lol


Actually, you may be insignificant.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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meme
#362 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2014 7:46:40 PM
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Joined: 7/20/2011
Posts: 161
Location: nairobi
murchr wrote:
meme wrote:
murchr wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
murchr wrote:


Mpesa is cheaper numbers dont lie


You may want to ask for a refund from whoever taught you Maths.

Here are the numbers:

SAFARICOM - MPESA to MPESA CHARGES

To send Ksh 10 to 2500 Will cost you from Ksh 1 to 40

To send Ksh 2501 to 70,000 Will cost you from Ksh 55 to 110

PROPOSED EQUITY MVNO CHARGES

To send Ksh 10 to 2500 Will cost you from Ksh 0.1 to 25 (1%)

To send Ksh 2501 to 70,000 Will cost you a flat fee of Ksh 25

To send any amount from Equity to Equity will cost ZERO



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Applause Applause Ok you win, the thing is SAfcon is working with known and tested data, so they know where the majority of those transacting lie and how they do it.

10 - 49 = 1
50 - 100 = 3
101 - 500 = 11
501 - 1,000 = 15
1,001 - 1,500 = 25

The rest dont care because they probably dont use it that oftenly anyway. Even YU charged "0" on their calls but they packed up and left. Equity should also brace themselves for the fight IF this thing takes off. And am for it dont get me wrong afterall the users get to gain.

Thats whyere you are wrong. Its not that WE dont care... We did not have a choice! lol


Actually, you may be insignificant.

Shame on you Shame on you lets wait and watch mister.
Patience. You cannot have a baby in one month by impregnating nine women....
FRM2011
#363 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:26:37 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"

He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.
mv_ufanisi
#364 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:09:38 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/15/2010
Posts: 625
FRM2011 wrote:
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"

He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.


JM understands Kenyans and has earned their trust, that's his biggest advantage over any competitors that Safaricom has faced. It's more a battle for the minds of Kenyans that Airtel, Yu and Orange have lost. JM can win this it's within his territory. As long as the technology works there'll be a movement to Equity which might turn into an exodus. It's going to make a good case study for business schools.
Kausha
#365 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:18:34 PM
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Joined: 2/8/2007
Posts: 808
I bet air patel are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of someone else throwing shit loads of money into an expensive fight that is the fight against safaricon. This will be protracted and i will take a break from the EB stock and watch from the safaricom corner.

notice EB has had little success outside its core space in Kenya.
Mart_Consult
#366 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:09:43 AM
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Location: Nairobi, Kenya
Air Patel Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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quicksand
#367 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 3:01:43 PM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
mv_ufanisi wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"

He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.


JM understands Kenyans and has earned their trust, that's his biggest advantage over any competitors that Safaricom has faced. It's more a battle for the minds of Kenyans that Airtel, Yu and Orange have lost. JM can win this it's within his territory. As long as the technology works there'll be a movement to Equity which might turn into an exodus. It's going to make a good case study for business schools.

It is the technology that will be an angry devil, hard to tame, there will be only very few chances and no major failures can be experienced. The first mover always has the advantage of tolerance of the customers, the second entrant comes in to find a bar already set. Apple Maps and Google Maps anyone?
Kenyans trusting JM or not does not carry much currency;Equity has to invest heavily, master and tame telecomms ecosystems/technology and fight Mpesa at the same time. Or hope their partners have the necessary tech depth of the same...and this being Airtel, my optimism is dampened badly.
patrazi
#368 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 3:43:00 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 7/18/2012
Posts: 76
mv_ufanisi wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"

He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.


JM understands Kenyans and has earned their trust, that's his biggest advantage over any competitors that Safaricom has faced. It's more a battle for the minds of Kenyans that Airtel, Yu and Orange have lost. JM can win this it's within his territory. As long as the technology works there'll be a movement to Equity which might turn into an exodus. It's going to make a good case study for business schools.

Kenyans don't trust him. They used to.
MaichBlack
#369 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 5:02:17 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,840
FRM2011 wrote:
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"

He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.

Oh ye of little faith, just wait and you'll see.

If there is one thing Equity and Dr. JM have never lacked, it's haters, prophets of doom, arm chair critics etc. And they all end up eating their words - though they rarely ever acknowledge the fact.

Dr. JM and Equity took on AN INDUSTRY and won against all odds. People challenged their business model timeline to collapse for daring to lend to the unbankable!! We know how that story went!

Dr. JM is the face of Equity. There is an engine room full of smart fellows you don't get to see on TV. Folks at Equity know exactly what they are doing. Trust me! There is no try and error here!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
muganda
#370 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:29:11 PM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,907
FRM2011 wrote:
I didn't want to comment on this thread until an equity staff told me something that scared me yeterday. He said, Dr.JM had once told a group of senior mgrs that the only company left for him to conquer was safaricom.

I hope it was a lie, I hope he was exaggerating. If not, then Lee Kun Hee, Samsung's president in 1997 comes to mind. Lee had a larger than life personality within Samsung. He had transformed Samsung and brought it huge success. His senior managers could not dare to express their reservations on wrong decisions made by Lee. So 1997, Lee started Samsung motors which folded a year later having lost $15bn of shareholders money.

The parallels with JM's entry into mobile telephony are too eerie to ignore.

When Jack Ma, Alibaba founder, was faced with eBay's entry into China, he told his staff;
"We are a crocodile in the Yangtze river and eBay is a shark in the ocean. We take the war to the ocean we die, we bring the war to the river we win"


He kept the war in his territory and his net worth now stands at $25bn after the IPO yesterday.

But Dr.JM has decided to get into the ocean and fight with a brutal and ruthless shark. It can only end one way.

Studies have proven that people are less likely to make optimal decisions after long periods of success.

I would wish to re-visit this thread after 3 years. I hope the fight between the crocodile and the shark will last that long.


Applause What @FRM2011! What a post, and now the Richest man in China
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