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Is CS Waiguru impeachable?
TAZ
#361 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:52:43 AM
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This lady is definitely being fixed but I think she should 'step aside for investigations', hizi shida ni mingi sana.

Kama ningekuwa Uhuru i would replace her with Ngilu after all she was cleared by EACC so i don't understand why she hasn't been reinstated.
alma1
#362 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:53:24 AM
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Kweli Much Know ni PA.

My friend understand the meaning of responsibility. And the phrase "the buck stops here"

Now you go and protect her and even have a demo with matching T-shirts if you wish.

The rest of the country knows better.

No sane person would allow such shenanigans in the own house.

If there are other thieves in other departments, do the patriotic thing and tell us. It seems you know. You seem to know a lot more than Waiguru. Who did not know that someone in her office was buying biros for 8k

Much know, she's either complicit in these allegations or she's too inept to be running a ministry. Choose one.

Don't come here trying to see sijui the light. Ohhh others are stealing, oooohh its because she's a woman, ohhhh,,,ohhhh, ohhhhh.

If you are her friend, tell her the way out. It's very simple.

Arrest those people you are saying here bought that piano. Before her afternoon meetup with Parliament.She has to bring us a fattened cow to eat today. Otherwise, go post on Jubilee Facebook groups, here we don't listen to nonsense.

You don't need to be a sexist to know that. Whatever that means.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Much Know
#363 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:58:09 AM
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dunkang wrote:
Much Know wrote:

She has told you she does NOT sign or negotiate, purchase anything. If you can manage, picture that of the 5000 or so workers in devolution Ms. Waiguru does not do everything, sawa? Halafu remember there are people who have SIGNED for this, the procurement officers, she FOUND THEM THERE and THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR AGES only now they have been caught, you can even be told how the check was paid to a lady called X, with a company called Y, those are the culprits, you on the other hand are tooo "easily manipulated", now you are assisting a SEXIST chase a hardworking woman from her job!

Buda boss, hata kama hii ni kitu yako, tafasali, kuwa na huruma. Hurumia nchi hii yetu. Hurumia familia millioni kadhaa zenye zinalipa ushuru na kukosa kula mlo unaofaa, ndiposa wamnunulie waiguru carpet ya MILLIONI 3.4 ya ofisi.

If she does not know what goes on in her office, WHY THE HECK IS SHE STILL IN OFFICE?

SHE IS DOING GREAT WORK. Have you ever tried to procure stuff with government and NOT forced to raise your price becuause "everybody knows" kuna kitu kidogo wacha this "illogical" story being bandied around of payment delays? I have never, but that's the way it's been working since the 80's for each and everything government was buying, corruption money is added in price always, this is the nexus with chickengate, turkwell gorge, pens, kila kitu, pointing at waiguru how exactly? what do you sack her for exactly, scrutinizing every receipt for KES 50billion, hata wewe bwana, at least somehow in her department the thieves are being caught. DONT FORGET she reported the other thieves before you knew!
Ras Kienyeji Man
Jus Blazin
#364 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:00:56 AM
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TAZ wrote:
This lady is definitely being fixed but I think she should 'step aside for investigations', hizi shida ni mingi sana.

Kama ningekuwa Uhuru i would replace her with Ngilu after all she was cleared by EACC so i don't understand why she hasn't been reinstated.

Ngilu Devolution ministry???? Pray Pray Pray
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Swenani
#365 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:00:59 AM
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Much Know wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Much Know wrote:
alma1 wrote:
dunkang wrote:



What is she trying to say, that SHE DOESN'T KNOW?

She doesn't know who bought the piano
She doesn't know who bought the pens?
She doesn't know who basically stole from Kenyans?

When she says that she has not seen the piano or the TV, what is she saying?

Someone stole the property?

If so who?

Why doesn't she know who stole the property?


So exactly what does she know?

Exactly what does she do? Like seriously.

I'm wondering what's worse a CEO who is heading the most corrupt ministry since Nyayo or a CEO who doesn't know that their Ministry is the worst since Nyayo?

Either way, she has to go or give us the slaughtered bull.

She has told you she does NOT sign or negotiate, purchase anything. If you can manage, picture that of the 5000 or so workers in devolution Ms. Waiguru does not do everything, sawa? Halafu remember there are people who have SIGNED for this, the procurement officers, she FOUND THEM THERE and THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR AGES only now they have been caught, you can even be told how the check was paid to a lady called X, with a company called Y, those are the culprits, you on the other hand are tooo "easily manipulated", now you are assisting a SEXIST chase a hardworking woman from her job!


Much Know

Oh come on.....who are these procurement officers you are talking about?

Now I'm sexist?

Don't be a comedian, we agreed here we leave comedy to churchill show.

What say you about the alleged vibrators?

If you find corrupt people, get rid of them. Do something. Not coming here to whine sijui people hate you more than they hate the other corrupt CS's.

What are you going to say next. That its ok for Uhuru not to fire hire because even Raila has corrupt people in his group?

Do you even understand what you are saying.

She has to go for the survival of njumbiree. Now that JAP is gone, she has to be sacrificed. So go on saying I'm sexist.

She was setup coz she's lazy. Can't escape responsibility.

The Financial reforms and the constitution seem to be working. Surely yours is a case of someone who has been living in darkness and when the light comes, you whine, complain and complain and complain, and nag nag about the light like a lazy woman, sijui condom dispenser blah blah blah with no clear trail to waiguru, do not be so resistant to change and make wazua a place of "change resistant fellows", those guys who tell the conductor to "bribe the cops" we continue with our "normal safari" although i am a big supporter of boy child programme, the lady has been doing a great job, at least in her department, the "usual suspects" are getting caught, ask what is happening in the other departments, are there no thieves there? Very clean people eh? Usijidanganye. Are this the ONLY thieves in Waigurus department? Jibu hio?



If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
alma1
#366 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:04:39 AM
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Much Know

Continue talking. Please understand, until we see the face of someone who bought a piano for an office and a TV we have just been told does not exist for 1.7 million we are not listening.

You are just talking to yourself.

Tis not tha time for talking. Someone is going to lay on this sword. It's your choice, Waiguru or the fellows you are saying signed sijui what.

Please have no doubt in your mind, that piece of paper did not appear by mistake in those documents. It was probably the PS himself who did it so save himself from being labeled a thief by the jubilee brigade.

tafakari hayo sana.

Until you bring us the people who did this, you are talking to people who won't believe another word you say.

Hayo tafakari zaidi.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

dunkang
#367 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:07:57 AM
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Much Know wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Much Know wrote:

She has told you she does NOT sign or negotiate, purchase anything. If you can manage, picture that of the 5000 or so workers in devolution Ms. Waiguru does not do everything, sawa? Halafu remember there are people who have SIGNED for this, the procurement officers, she FOUND THEM THERE and THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR AGES only now they have been caught, you can even be told how the check was paid to a lady called X, with a company called Y, those are the culprits, you on the other hand are tooo "easily manipulated", now you are assisting a SEXIST chase a hardworking woman from her job!

Buda boss, hata kama hii ni kitu yako, tafasali, kuwa na huruma. Hurumia nchi hii yetu. Hurumia familia millioni kadhaa zenye zinalipa ushuru na kukosa kula mlo unaofaa, ndiposa wamnunulie waiguru carpet ya MILLIONI 3.4 ya ofisi.

If she does not know what goes on in her office, WHY THE HECK IS SHE STILL IN OFFICE?

Have you ever tried to procure stuff to government and NOT forced to raise your price becuaus "everybody knows" kuna kittu kidogo wacha this "illogical" story being bandied around of payment dealys? I have never, but that's the way it's been working since the 80's for each and everything government was buying, corruption money is added in price always, pointing at waiguru how exactly, what do you sack her for exactly, scrutinizing every receipt for KES 50billion, hata wewe bwana.

In my area of expertise, jobs from GoK are at least 75% of my workload.

Yes, jobs are hard come by, so, "lobbying" is the way most of the firms get jobs from GoK departments and parastatals. BUT, there is no justification of raising cost of goods and services by over 10 times (1000%). Anything above 15% of the estimates should be disqualified.

Waiguru should be JAILED for GROSS INCOMPETENCE and possible THEFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Much Know
#368 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:09:29 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
Swenani wrote:
Much Know wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Much Know wrote:
alma1 wrote:
dunkang wrote:



What is she trying to say, that SHE DOESN'T KNOW?

She doesn't know who bought the piano
She doesn't know who bought the pens?
She doesn't know who basically stole from Kenyans?

When she says that she has not seen the piano or the TV, what is she saying?

Someone stole the property?

If so who?

Why doesn't she know who stole the property?


So exactly what does she know?

Exactly what does she do? Like seriously.

I'm wondering what's worse a CEO who is heading the most corrupt ministry since Nyayo or a CEO who doesn't know that their Ministry is the worst since Nyayo?

Either way, she has to go or give us the slaughtered bull.

She has told you she does NOT sign or negotiate, purchase anything. If you can manage, picture that of the 5000 or so workers in devolution Ms. Waiguru does not do everything, sawa? Halafu remember there are people who have SIGNED for this, the procurement officers, she FOUND THEM THERE and THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR AGES only now they have been caught, you can even be told how the check was paid to a lady called X, with a company called Y, those are the culprits, you on the other hand are tooo "easily manipulated", now you are assisting a SEXIST chase a hardworking woman from her job!


Much Know

Oh come on.....who are these procurement officers you are talking about?

Now I'm sexist?

Don't be a comedian, we agreed here we leave comedy to churchill show.

What say you about the alleged vibrators?

If you find corrupt people, get rid of them. Do something. Not coming here to whine sijui people hate you more than they hate the other corrupt CS's.

What are you going to say next. That its ok for Uhuru not to fire hire because even Raila has corrupt people in his group?

Do you even understand what you are saying.

She has to go for the survival of njumbiree. Now that JAP is gone, she has to be sacrificed. So go on saying I'm sexist.

She was setup coz she's lazy. Can't escape responsibility.

The Financial reforms and the constitution seem to be working. Surely yours is a case of someone who has been living in darkness and when the light comes, you whine, complain and complain and complain, and nag nag about the light like a lazy woman, sijui condom dispenser blah blah blah with no clear trail to waiguru, do not be so resistant to change and make wazua a place of "change resistant fellows", those guys who tell the conductor to "bribe the cops" we continue with our "normal safari" although i am a big supporter of boy child programme, the lady has been doing a great job, at least in her department, the "usual suspects" are getting caught, ask what is happening in the other departments, are there no thieves there? Very clean people eh? Usijidanganye. Are this the ONLY thieves in Waigurus department? Jibu hio?




scientifically, Nagging has been found to attributed to be more of a feminine form of interpersonal communication rather than masculine, OTHERWISE this is a cultural expression you ought to know, i am not interested in Babylonian hypocrisy neither european political correctness, tegemea FACTS plus a bit of your good culture and psychology brother if you want mental peace.
Ras Kienyeji Man
TNT
#369 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:13:10 AM
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Joined: 5/22/2009
Posts: 206
I thought in the eyes on the law Ignorance is no defense.Now, here is a boss who is using ignorance as her defense when her department is under relentless attack.
Much Know
#370 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:15:32 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
dunkang wrote:
Much Know wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Much Know wrote:

She has told you she does NOT sign or negotiate, purchase anything. If you can manage, picture that of the 5000 or so workers in devolution Ms. Waiguru does not do everything, sawa? Halafu remember there are people who have SIGNED for this, the procurement officers, she FOUND THEM THERE and THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR AGES only now they have been caught, you can even be told how the check was paid to a lady called X, with a company called Y, those are the culprits, you on the other hand are tooo "easily manipulated", now you are assisting a SEXIST chase a hardworking woman from her job!

Buda boss, hata kama hii ni kitu yako, tafasali, kuwa na huruma. Hurumia nchi hii yetu. Hurumia familia millioni kadhaa zenye zinalipa ushuru na kukosa kula mlo unaofaa, ndiposa wamnunulie waiguru carpet ya MILLIONI 3.4 ya ofisi.

If she does not know what goes on in her office, WHY THE HECK IS SHE STILL IN OFFICE?

Have you ever tried to procure stuff to government and NOT forced to raise your price becuaus "everybody knows" kuna kittu kidogo wacha this "illogical" story being bandied around of payment dealys? I have never, but that's the way it's been working since the 80's for each and everything government was buying, corruption money is added in price always, pointing at waiguru how exactly, what do you sack her for exactly, scrutinizing every receipt for KES 50billion, hata wewe bwana.

In my area of expertise, jobs from GoK are at least 75% of my workload.

Yes, jobs are hard come by, so, "lobbying" is the way most of the firms get jobs from GoK departments and parastatals. BUT, there is no justification of raising cost of goods and services by over 10 times (1000%). Anything above 15% of the estimates should be disqualified.

Waiguru should be JAILED for GROSS INCOMPETENCE and possible THEFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS!

There i will have to raise you for CONFLICT OF INTEREST bro, moral hazard calls for me to consider that your statement is purely based on your PERSONAL interest, people can be COMPLETELY MENTALLY BLIND when it comes to their interest without knowing it, just like tribal voting. One can competently/wisely "choose" to disregard your appraisal of the situation
Ras Kienyeji Man
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