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Ericsson
#361 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:27:31 PM
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@VituVingiSana
You are right.The ksh.20bn infrastructure bond floated in May is for paying contractors not the water and energy projects being advertised.
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mlennyma
#362 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:12:15 PM
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New low na bado
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mkate_nusu
#363 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:57:21 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@VituVingiSana
You are right.The ksh.20bn infrastructure bond floated in May is for paying contractors not the water and energy projects being advertised.


These debts will swallow us alive
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VituVingiSana
#364 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 5:16:48 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
mkate_nusu wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@VituVingiSana
You are right.The ksh.20bn infrastructure bond floated in May is for paying contractors not the water and energy projects being advertised.


These debts will swallow us alive

If used judiciously these loans can help us but we have shady projects eg NYS that have consumed billions while producing less than what has been pumped in.

Look at political projects that have benefitted the corrupt eg bailouts of Mumias, Panpaper and KQ. These bailouts are at the expense of taxpayers.

If GoK were to STOP (reduce) borrowing from the local market, the rest of us could afford to borrow and build institutions.
Why would a factory owner expand when he has to pay 20%? He would rather put his "downpayment" money in T-Bonds.
Why would a farmer buy more land or build new sheds or plant a new variety when the risk of default is high? He could lose his farm.

I know many local manufacturers and farmers who would EXPAND their production capacity if they could access loans at 8% instead of 20% (or more). Instead, we are IMPORTING many goods/services because the financial risk is very high.

I expect banks to reduce NEW lending but they will restructure & refinance loans of borrowers in distress. I want to see a growth in lending in Agriculture and Manufacturing NOT "imports" and malls!
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Ebenyo
#365 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:42:43 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
mkate_nusu wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@VituVingiSana
You are right.The ksh.20bn infrastructure bond floated in May is for paying contractors not the water and energy projects being advertised.


These debts will swallow us alive

If used judiciously these loans can help us but we have shady projects eg NYS that have consumed billions while producing less than what has been pumped in.

Look at political projects that have benefitted the corrupt eg bailouts of Mumias, Panpaper and KQ. These bailouts are at the expense of taxpayers.

If GoK were to STOP (reduce) borrowing from the local market, the rest of us could afford to borrow and build institutions.
Why would a factory owner expand when he has to pay 20%? He would rather put his "downpayment" money in T-Bonds.
Why would a farmer buy more land or build new sheds or plant a new variety when the risk of default is high? He could lose his farm.

I know many local manufacturers and farmers who would EXPAND their production capacity if they could access loans at 8% instead of 20% (or more). Instead, we are IMPORTING many goods/services because the financial risk is very high.

I expect banks to reduce NEW lending but they will restructure & refinance loans of borrowers in distress. I want to see a growth in lending in Agriculture and Manufacturing NOT "imports" and malls!

Is there any development from insiders concerning the kshs 7 billion loan? Oigara had said it was to be repaid this month?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
mlennyma
#366 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 9:42:06 AM
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31.50 with pending rights 20bob not far fetched
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PKoli
#367 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 9:52:11 AM
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Joined: 2/10/2007
Posts: 1,587
mlennyma wrote:
31.50 with pending rights 20bob not far fetched

@20 bob, I will liquidate everything else and buy KCB. Sub 30 sounds very juicy
Plimsoul
#368 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 9:55:20 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
31.50 with pending rights 20bob not far fetched


When is the rights?
Aguytrying
#369 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 10:39:55 AM
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PKoli wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
31.50 with pending rights 20bob not far fetched

@20 bob, I will liquidate everything else and buy KCB. Sub 30 sounds very juicy


I wish it was equity bank at these prices
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Pesa Nane
#370 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2016 12:20:41 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
PKoli wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
31.50 with pending rights 20bob not far fetched

@20 bob, I will liquidate everything else and buy KCB. Sub 30 sounds very juicy


I wish it was equity bank at these prices

@Aguy?!!!!
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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