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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
washiku
#701 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:53:36 PM
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masukuma wrote:
point wrote:
Instead of sleeping in court, babu should be drafting an apology to Kenyans for wasting our two weeks. clearly hakuna case!

Claims will morph!! unacheza na baba...


The dramatic presentation by Orengo with an own report was meant to prepare us for that.
murchr
#702 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:54:02 PM
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Sasa si hacking ni security features which are not are requirement by law
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#703 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:57:49 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Orengo amesahau stori ya hacking na algori..whatever!

What hacking? logarithm? Y=1.2045X + 183,546? People should focus on the actual process waachane na tech... it's a waste of time!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kaka2za
#704 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07:34 PM
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Still waiting for the bombshell/smoking gun.
Au Orengo ataituma na SMS?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
2012
#705 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:11:42 PM
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Orengo did not do his side any favor trying to sneak in new documents. It almost looks desperate but I think he did very well, definitely better than Muite but not Ngatia, Ngatia was by far the best prepared for the closing.

On a different note, it is sad that there wasn't even one woman selected by any of the sides. This is a sad day for the women and they need to step up and stop being file carriers the way we are all seeing on TV all through the process.

BBI will solve it
:)
murchr
#706 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:14:56 PM
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2012 wrote:
Orengo did not do his side any favor trying to sneak in new documents. It almost looks desperate but I think he did very well, definitely better than Muite but not Ngatia, Ngatia was by far the best prepared for the closing.

On a different note, it is sad that there wasn't even one woman selected by any of the sides. This is a sad day for the women and they need to step up and stop being file carriers the way we are all seeing on TV all through the process.


Kambuni? Melissa Ngania?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#707 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:24:00 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Baratang
#708 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:30:53 PM
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Since this case started like Muite noted, Nasa has not as yet come out to challenge the numbers as presented by high bee see's live count and form 34A. Fishing expedition kweli.
Gathige
#709 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:34:00 PM
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2012 wrote:
Orengo did not do his side any favor trying to sneak in new documents. It almost looks desperate but I think he did very well, definitely better than Muite but not Ngatia, Ngatia was by far the best prepared for the closing.

On a different note, it is sad that there wasn't even one woman selected by any of the sides. This is a sad day for the women and they need to step up and stop being file carriers the way we are all seeing on TV all through the process.



@2012, IEBC has a lady, Lucy Kambuni, who did a superb presentation. But there needs to be more i agree
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Musimo
#710 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:36:38 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Still waiting for the bombshell/smoking gun.

Here you go...Bombshell...
Gathige
#711 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:41:34 PM
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Baba attended the Court hearings for two days and sat pensively. looks like his stakes are very high and dependent on the outcome of this case. His legal team has argued its not about numbers but the process. Looks like it has downed to the NASA team it would be difficult to win on numbers!
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
mobutu123
#712 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:05:23 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Baba attended the Court hearings for two days and sat pensively. looks like his stakes are very high and dependent on the outcome of this case. His legal team has argued its not about numbers but the process. Looks like it has downed to the NASA team it would be difficult to win on numbers!

Numbers are derived from a process. wen the process is bad,then the numbers produced by that process
do not matter.That was the essence of Nasa's case. Thats how this case will be won or lost.
kaka2za
#713 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:12:23 PM
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That was fun. Now waiting for Baba's petition in 2022 Inshallah!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Amores
#714 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:18:33 PM
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2012 wrote:
Orengo did not do his side any favor trying to sneak in new documents. It almost looks desperate but I think he did very well, definitely better than Muite but not Ngatia, Ngatia was by far the best prepared for the closing.

On a different note, it is sad that there wasn't even one woman selected by any of the sides. This is a sad day for the women and they need to step up and stop being file carriers the way we are all seeing on TV all through the process.


I think he did well. Ama its my 12 inch thick googles?smile smile

I think his main line of argument was intentional,and it was about numbers.If the numbers in the form are not contested,then it is a fact that the will of the people was expressed and should be left to stand

He also made compelling points about what law requires as far as the forms, maintaining that there is no evidence as to why the election should be set aside.

I thought grand Mullah was underwhelming.

PLO ran away with the show jana !!

Ladies and gentlemen, the dully elected President, the one who painted the country red is enjoying himself kwa safari na wanyama. Hizi vitu zingine ni entertainment and on another level,embarassing for lawyers such as Otiende? How could he accept to go to court to present Pythagoras?
I am happy
murchr
#715 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:19:23 PM
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mobutu123 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Baba attended the Court hearings for two days and sat pensively. looks like his stakes are very high and dependent on the outcome of this case. His legal team has argued its not about numbers but the process. Looks like it has downed to the NASA team it would be difficult to win on numbers!


Numbers are derived from a process. wen the process is bad,then the numbers produced by that process
do not matter.That was the essence of Nasa's case. Thats how this case will be won or lost.


Process is bad by which standards?

Constitution reigns supreme. Now come back and tell us what the constitution and law says
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#716 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:43:12 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mobutu123
#717 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:53:51 PM
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murchr wrote:
mobutu123 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Baba attended the Court hearings for two days and sat pensively. looks like his stakes are very high and dependent on the outcome of this case. His legal team has argued its not about numbers but the process. Looks like it has downed to the NASA team it would be difficult to win on numbers!


Numbers are derived from a process. wen the process is bad,then the numbers produced by that process
do not matter.That was the essence of Nasa's case. Thats how this case will be won or lost.


Process is bad by which standards?

Constitution reigns supreme. Now come back and tell us what the constitution and law says

Am no lawyer my fren. Whether the process meets whatever standards the constitution prescribes,sijui. Thats why we are be4 Maraga atuambie hayo.
Lolest!
#718 Posted : Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:55:11 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
That was fun. Now waiting for Baba's petition in 2022 Inshallah!

Laughing out loudly
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
murchr
#719 Posted : Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:36:12 AM
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mobutu123 wrote:
murchr wrote:
mobutu123 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Baba attended the Court hearings for two days and sat pensively. looks like his stakes are very high and dependent on the outcome of this case. His legal team has argued its not about numbers but the process. Looks like it has downed to the NASA team it would be difficult to win on numbers!


Numbers are derived from a process. wen the process is bad,then the numbers produced by that process
do not matter.That was the essence of Nasa's case. Thats how this case will be won or lost.


Process is bad by which standards?

Constitution reigns supreme. Now come back and tell us what the constitution and law says

Am no lawyer my fren. Whether the process meets whatever standards the constitution prescribes,sijui. Thats why we are be4 Maraga atuambie hayo.



Everything brought before the law is adjudicated by the law, not innuendos
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Kusadikika
#720 Posted : Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:54:43 AM
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The young lawyer for Ekuru Aukot is really good. He is not as eloquent and flamboyant as PLO Lumumba but on issues of law his presentation was solid and very well argued. His evidence was specific, accurate and verifiable. It is the kind of argument that the CEO of IEBC can make as required reading for his staff and would help to improve how future elections are conducted.

It will be interesting to hear how Justice Lenaola votes on the decision and to also read his opinion because the young lawyer really put him on the spot. It was his decision that inferred that if the process is flawed then the results are flawed as well.
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