This is a good post explaining some basic principles that fellows like masukuma do not understand. Thats why I laugh out loud when he claims he played Kenya cup rugby. A person that illiterate about how sports works cannot possibly have played at that level for 5 years as he claims.

What Robinhood explained above are basic concepts which even a casual fan should understand. So the idea that someone who played in Kenya cup for 5 years does not know that is just laughable.

Knock yourself out na kicheko... cheka yako yote.... ukimaliza utuambia wewe ulifanya nini ya maana... sijasikia ulicheza nini after PE classes. ama kazi ni kulecture kila mtu juu ya kila kitu - anyone with access to wikipedia can regurgitate what you do. I hate to throw it out there but Mimi at one point was to 5 highest try scorers in 7s.... anyway - that's all in the past!

@Robinhood,
Who said "We do not lack talent"? we have always assumed that kenyans are blessed "with talent"? who said that? what metric? Why do you assume that there is something "special" in the 582,650 km2 that is Kenya that is not found elsewhere? What is this special thing found in the people west and south of Mandera, North and west of Lunga Lunga, east and south of lokichogio. what is this "thing' you think you have that serendipitously found itself here and no where else? kenya is blessed with talent is an unsubstantiated claim and everything built on that premise is nice sounding B.S.

This is a classic case of masukuma fighting with his own shadow . No one on wazua has said Kenya is blessed with talent. No one has said there is something special in Kenya.

But it is a fact that Kenya has more talent than the teams they routinely lose to nowadays. Kenya has in the recent past fielded a team with players who play in the top leagues of England, Italy, France etc. Players who featured in the champions league. And with all these players they have lost to teams like Eritrea, Lesotho, Botswana, Somalia etc. These are teams with players playing in much lower leagues and sometimes are amateurs. A player who is playing in the Champions league is likely more talented than a player in the Eritrean league. If you do not understand this basic concept then maybe you are an airhead.
Kenya lost to these teams not because “hatujui ball”. We lost mostly due to poor planning:
Against Botswana, Kenya arrived mere hours before the match and lost 3-0. All the goals were scored in the last 15 minutes. The players said they were tired from the long journey
The same scenario happened against Cape Verde when Kenya players went through a 10 hour travel ordeal of waiting for their flight at Wilson airport

On top of that Kenya never trains together nor plays friendlies. In 2014, Wanyama pleaded for friendlies and instead the government sent them on holiday in Brazil to watch the world cup. Meanwhile Lesotho were busy training. The next month Lesotho beat Kenya.

This scenario has repeated itself over and over for the past 15 years. In the few moments where Kenya had some good organization, the team did well. When Job Omino was KFF chair, Kenya qualified for the Africa Nations cup three times in a row. And that was when only 8 teams qualified. In the late 90s with Fabisch, Kenya recorded good results against some of Africas to teams beat Algeria 3-1, Cameroon and that Nigeria team that won the Olympic gold medal.

In 2004, Kenya qualified for CAN again beating teams like Cape Verde and Togo who consistently beat us now. Heck even last year Kenya recorded a good result away to Congo. It is clear from these results that Kenya has the talent to compete. But we keep getting derailed by poor management. Others can see this clearly. Even manambas on the street. Only Masukuma seems to lack the cognitive ability to grasp this basic concept. And since he can’t grasp it, he just keeps creating straw men arguments to fight with and continues to fight with his own shadow.

Send me a ping when you have something useful to contribute to this debate

Yes but at least they qualified. A huge achievement since back then only 8 teams qualified.

In 1988, there was serious discord within the camp. In fact some players came to blows. The coaches were also focused on tribal balancing instead of fielding players on merit.

And in 1992 the players went on strike, refusing to play in order to get the coach fired.

In 2004, Ghost fielded players whom he represented as an agent so he could sell them and make money. Thats why Jojo was fielded despite having a neck injury.

The only normal campaign was 1972 and 1990.
In 1972, Kenya played very well against hosts Camerooon losing 2-1. They then drew 1-1 with Mali and Togo




But at least they beat Algeria and almost beat Nigeria and Cameroon.

In the 4th all Africa games Kenya beat Tunisia, drew 3-3 with Cameroon. They reached the final and lost only due to a dubious penalty to Egypt. The difference on that occasion was that the team camped in Germany for one month.

Because our leaders don't take football seriously, such good preparations rarely happen.

I don't expect Kenya to be African champions. But with proper preparations they can qualify for ACN at least once every 3 tournaments. This year they started well by drawing away against Congo. Then our normal madness took over and derailed everything.