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BRITAK IPO: The Money Maker
sparkly
#351 Posted : Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:35:42 AM
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erifloss wrote:
I think that even with the anticipated fall in profits, people are going to make money from this IPO. Remember CFC Insurance Holdings & its listing? The analysis done on the share showed it as overpriced & it's almost double its introductory price as of now. The one share that everyone never trusted from the word go was TCL & it was all because of the type of investments made & some of the investors. Thus i still think their is some cash to be made here.

@ef all the best... These days i don't throw money at companies without a proven track record. The odds are stacked against you.
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hisah
#352 Posted : Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:31:06 AM
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The way this IPO has been trashed (I being in this camp) gives me a sneaky gut feeling that Mr Market will 100% defy all logic and rally this IPO?! Mr Market is a weird character and when you push the extremes he always tends to do the opposite... And based on the excess negativity & even brokers calling clients to participate, dont be shocked when you see a 100 - 300% rally??!
If the NSE will be on rebound in Aug, this thing will rally. If the US & Eurozone will have pulled off a houdini act in Aug & their debt crisis appears 'resolved', global markets will rally. So if this IPO finds a rebounding NSE & a global debt relief momentum expect it to have a huge sentiment rally and not fundamentally supported. At 50% gains I'd start exiting.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#353 Posted : Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:58:12 AM
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I received a SIB newsletter. FY 2010 net profit was 2.87 billion. FY 2011 projected profit is 29 million.

What more can i say.

But you know what its an IPO, Mr market cant resist it even if he wanted. tranny traded at 60.00 at one point. Sentiment most likely will create a rally, and the folly of mr market.
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mwekez@ji
#354 Posted : Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:44:58 PM
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hisah wrote:
The way this IPO has been trashed (I being in this camp) gives me a sneaky gut feeling that Mr Market will 100% defy all logic and rally this IPO?! Mr Market is a weird character and when you push the extremes he always tends to do the opposite... And based on the excess negativity & even brokers calling clients to participate, dont be shocked when you see a 100 - 300% rally??!
If the NSE will be on rebound in Aug, this thing will rally. If the US & Eurozone will have pulled off a houdini act in Aug & their debt crisis appears 'resolved', global markets will rally. So if this IPO finds a rebounding NSE & a global debt relief momentum expect it to have a huge sentiment rally and not fundamentally supported. At 50% gains I'd start exiting.


And what would be your stop loss level coz this could turn out either way
hisah
#355 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 12:12:17 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
The way this IPO has been trashed (I being in this camp) gives me a sneaky gut feeling that Mr Market will 100% defy all logic and rally this IPO?! Mr Market is a weird character and when you push the extremes he always tends to do the opposite... And based on the excess negativity & even brokers calling clients to participate, dont be shocked when you see a 100 - 300% rally??!
If the NSE will be on rebound in Aug, this thing will rally. If the US & Eurozone will have pulled off a houdini act in Aug & their debt crisis appears 'resolved', global markets will rally. So if this IPO finds a rebounding NSE & a global debt relief momentum expect it to have a huge sentiment rally and not fundamentally supported. At 50% gains I'd start exiting.


And what would be your stop loss level coz this could turn out either way

I'd take a 10% draw down. But what if it closes 20% down? At that point your close rapport with your broker will be required to get you out with a quick sell...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Bw Editor
#356 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 8:26:22 AM
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True, Hs. But like i said, there maybe naysayers but the britak ipo remains a good buy especially on the long run. all those issues of nse, US debt swap and others will pass. and for people not being able to buy insurance coz of inflation, the IMF has projected that inflation will go down as soon as rains come and food is available. With the current uncertainties in Europe and the US, dont expect fuel price to go high, thus inflation will go down further. insurance uptake will gradually rise bringing more business to the company and thus more earning, higher share price, dividends etc.
the deal
#357 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 9:05:37 AM
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@BW Britak needs some work...you need to diversify the company...so far your holdings are only in the financial sector...how about you reduce your stake in Equity Bank and buy some KenolKobil...TPS...KPLC? You also need to look at some private companies...just pour the money we will do the research for you

Another question Why should I buy the Britak IPO? If its your holdings in Equity or Housing Finance I can buy directly from the market rather than buying through someone.
mwekez@ji
#358 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:02:37 AM
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Bw Editor wrote:

True, Hs. But like i said, there maybe naysayers but the britak ipo remains a good buy especially on the long run. all those issues of nse, US debt swap and others will pass. and for people not being able to buy insurance coz of inflation, the IMF has projected that inflation will go down as soon as rains come and food is available. With the current uncertainties in Europe and the US, dont expect fuel price to go high, thus inflation will go down further. insurance uptake will gradually rise bringing more business to the company and thus more earning, higher share price, dividends etc.


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

It has been said and said and said, over and over and over again, that Britak is not a long term buy and good reasons have been given. What new info do you have to offer to justify otherwise
youcan'tstopusnow
#359 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:48:45 PM
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So, 19 hours to go. Will we be seeing long lines outside brokers' offices tomorrow?
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#360 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:58:37 PM
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Very poor uptake esp from retail investors. I personaly had more people asking me about the Co-op IPO which came at a worse time than this when the NSE was sub 3,400!
Wonder whether it will manage full subscription at this rate!
@SufficientlyP
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