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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted.  Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Murchr, this is a better view. Let me tell you something for free. I know my employees don't think I'm a very nice person. But I can assure without a shadow of a doubt, I will fire you in 2 minutes if you tell me that to my face. Kuria should be organising his meetings in Gatundu. Not tanga tangaring in Ngilu's compound. Atolewe!!! Tanga Tanga...Pris, stop provoking people to gain bonga points. You will be ejected.. Moses Kuria...Be a man. As in I'm calling you not a man. Organise an Anti Uhuru campaign in your own constituency. If you can't then return Lootos money. This Murchr is a better view What you think or rather your opinion doesn't matter to me. Mwananinchi said "apewe kiti" na akapewa. That has earned him more points than anyone else in that circus. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted.  Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Murchr, this is a better view. Let me tell you something for free. I know my employees don't think I'm a very nice person. But I can assure without a shadow of a doubt, I will fire you in 2 minutes if you tell me that to my face. Kuria should be organising his meetings in Gatundu. Not tanga tangaring in Ngilu's compound. Atolewe!!! Tanga Tanga...Pris, stop provoking people to gain bonga points. You will be ejected.. Moses Kuria...Be a man. As in I'm calling you not a man. Organise an Anti Uhuru campaign in your own constituency. If you can't then return Lootos money. This Murchr is a better view What you think or rather your opinion doesn't matter to me. Mwananinchi said "apewe kiti" na akapewa. That has earned him more points than anyone else in that circus. I too have paid people to cause a commotion in a public rally. It cost me 200 bob per person and a phone camera. Murchr Tell Moses Kuria, kama yeye ni mwanaume...Aende Gatundu Constituency apige hio domo domo yake. Otherwise I'll call him a coward and he should return Lootos money. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted.  Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Murchr, this is a better view. Let me tell you something for free. I know my employees don't think I'm a very nice person. But I can assure without a shadow of a doubt, I will fire you in 2 minutes if you tell me that to my face. Kuria should be organising his meetings in Gatundu. Not tanga tangaring in Ngilu's compound. Atolewe!!! Tanga Tanga...Pris, stop provoking people to gain bonga points. You will be ejected.. Moses Kuria...Be a man. As in I'm calling you not a man. Organise an Anti Uhuru campaign in your own constituency. If you can't then return Lootos money. This Murchr is a better view What you think or rather your opinion doesn't matter to me. Mwananinchi said "apewe kiti" na akapewa. That has earned him more points than anyone else in that circus. I too have paid people to cause a commotion in a public rally. It cost me 200 bob per person and a phone camera. Murchr Tell Moses Kuria, kama yeye ni mwanaume...Aende Gatundu Constituency apige hio domo domo yake. Otherwise I'll call him a coward and he should return Lootos money. If Njamba ya ruriri and Uhuru were to run today, UK would be totally embarrassed. Amazing how out of touch you are "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted.  Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Murchr, this is a better view. Let me tell you something for free. I know my employees don't think I'm a very nice person. But I can assure without a shadow of a doubt, I will fire you in 2 minutes if you tell me that to my face. Kuria should be organising his meetings in Gatundu. Not tanga tangaring in Ngilu's compound. Atolewe!!! Tanga Tanga...Pris, stop provoking people to gain bonga points. You will be ejected.. Moses Kuria...Be a man. As in I'm calling you not a man. Organise an Anti Uhuru campaign in your own constituency. If you can't then return Lootos money. This Murchr is a better view What you think or rather your opinion doesn't matter to me. Mwananinchi said "apewe kiti" na akapewa. That has earned him more points than anyone else in that circus. I too have paid people to cause a commotion in a public rally. It cost me 200 bob per person and a phone camera. Murchr Tell Moses Kuria, kama yeye ni mwanaume...Aende Gatundu Constituency apige hio domo domo yake. Otherwise I'll call him a coward and he should return Lootos money. If Njamba ya ruriri and Uhuru were to run today, UK would be totally embarrassed. Amazing how out of touch you are Murchr... I don't know these people. Stop telling me mambo ya if or then or what or somehow and ground iko different. I want to believe that Moses Kuria is a man... After all, he spends his time slapping women and talking about their underwears. Moses Kuria, Go to Gatundu constituency...Hold a rally and invite Uhuru Kenyatta...Then abuse him. Tuone kama wewe ni mwanaume. I can assure you without a shadow of a doubt. If Uhuru called me and asked me to tell him the things I have said about him on Wazua, I will tell him word for word what I have said. But We know Moses Kuria. He can't and never will. Ati Mama Ngilu alimfukuza? What a man. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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This BBI is dividing more than it's uniting the country. But I still stand with the document. Pretty good except the political part.... 60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote: A new proposal on the BBI Kitui agenda. Split Kitui to create Mwingi county. Laughing out loudly
Very good proposal. If you remember Ukambani was very unhappy with 2010katiba coz they got only 3 counties. If we want BBI, we must be ready for such uncomfortable proposals. Ile sijaelewa ni making Senate the upper house(copied and pasted from other BBI fora) Why not disband the Senate? Why can't we have a committee of national assembly being in charge of devolution?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Lolest! wrote:Quote: A new proposal on the BBI Kitui agenda. Split Kitui to create Mwingi county. Laughing out loudly
Very good proposal. If you remember Ukambani was very unhappy with 2010katiba coz they got only 3 counties. If we want BBI, we must be ready for such uncomfortable proposals. Ile sijaelewa ni making Senate the upper house(copied and pasted from other BBI fora) Why not disband the Senate? Why can't we have a committee of national assembly being in charge of devolution? We don't have the money to create other counties unless we are ready to make other painful decisions like disbanding other non essential counties. If we want regional governments, then we should do away with counties all together. Those are the uncomfortable decisions we should be considering. The Senate being the upper house means Senators should be paid more than MPs. Currently, they are equals with different responsibilities. The big man syndrome at play again "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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Thitifini wrote:This BBI is dividing more than it's uniting the country. But I still stand with the document. Pretty good except the political part.... The documents on paper are always very good. In Mombasa, one of the key declarations was for BBI to address historical land injustices. The land Chorus has been sung, bUT when implementation starts, the land barons in power create road blocks at every corner. Kitui declared they want a powerful PM, am sure in some other place they will declare they want a powerfull president. Amidst the noise, the prince has increased the price of rice from 45 to 85 Kes per kilo in Mwea and busy opening roads in places not very far from Gatundu. BBI is just a ceasefire to allow someone some peace. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted.  Trying very hard to earn some points. Why come late?Why demand a seat in the front row? Drama queen....... It may not end well for him. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote: A new proposal on the BBI Kitui agenda. Split Kitui to create Mwingi county. Laughing out loudly
Very good proposal. If you remember Ukambani was very unhappy with 2010katiba coz they got only 3 counties. If we want BBI, we must be ready for such uncomfortable proposals. Ile sijaelewa ni making Senate the upper house(copied and pasted from other BBI fora) Why not disband the Senate? Why can't we have a committee of national assembly being in charge of devolution? We don't have the money to create other counties unless we are ready to make other painful decisions like disbanding other non essential counties. If we want regional governments, then we should do away with counties all together. Those are the uncomfortable decisions we should be considering.
The Senate being the upper house means Senators should be paid more than MPs. Currently, they are equals with different responsibilities. The big man syndrome at play again From the look of things, there is NO room for views which are not supported by wenye BBI1 and BBI2. Since the the Haji taskforce did not make these recommendations in BBI1, they have to be put in BBI2, under guise of consulting the people. We know how these things are done. Big man goes to coast/ western etc to meet leaders / opinion shapers in the name of consulting. They are fed, given chums and then now tehy are ready to be told the resolutions  . Following day kwa uwanja the " resolutions" are read amid chanting from Wajingasisi. Anyone who is of different opinion is not given the opportunity to speak. So how exactly will these other views be considered? Tungojee tuu, mwananchi will decide in the ballot. Chances are we will have the regional governments + counties + senate + powerfl PM + deputy PM and all the rest of it..... if Kenyans are swayed by politicians to agree to such nonsense, then walipe tax ya kuwalipa mshahara, ama? I am still of the opinion that the issues that bedevil Kenya are not because of lack of political representation. They are issues of lack of respect for the constitution and the rule of law. So i am against altering it to treat a disease which has nothing to do with representation . Maybe I am wrong. ... I am happy
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