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alma
#341 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:27:15 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
At the risk of crossing the RED LINE. I will say this

This Jubilee gov't is currently the WORST gov't to have ever been imagined by friends or foe of Kenya.

To Al-Shabaab it is the gift that keeps on giving
To the corrupt, its the gift that never stops giving
To the opposition, its a gift made with diamonds


To the victims of violence and terrorist attacks it is not a gift. It is a government of blaming anyone, anything, anywhere, anyhow, whatever, walking, dead, alive, impossible, possible and everything and everyone but themselves.

I never thought I would ever live to see a gov't worse and more inept than the gov't of the final 5 years of Moi's rule. I have been sadly proven wrong.

36 hours more than 50 Kenyans were butchered, all I have seen of the Commander in Chief is a video where he is scaring all the terrorists in Kenya. They are very very scared right now.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
KulaRaha
#342 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:49:41 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
accelriskconsult
#343 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:06:11 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 4/2/2011
Posts: 629
Location: Nai
jaggernaut wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
Jubilee supporters, the demonstrations you plan to hold are targeting the wrong people. Baba has no mandate to protect you and me. You will demonstrate and we shall continue dying.

How can a government claim that an opposition leader is responsible for a massacre and not offer any evidence when it has the Police, NIS, GSU and KDF at its disposal? Is that not an admission of incompetence on the part of the government. If you claim Baba is responsible for the attack, arrest him and put him on his defence.
It is a sorry state when propaganda and besmirching of opponents dominates official government statements. Hata Moi hakufika hiyo level



The govt must have some evidence for it to have made such a statement. Remember that baba was also recently pictured with alshabab sympathizers (youths who were flying alshabab flags at masjid mosque, and killed policemen) at tononoka including rogo's son. Let me find that piksha and post it.



Then why not arrest him and charge him?
Do you know the circumstances that led to the assassination of JM Kariuki?

http://www.the-star.co.k...ariukis-last-days-alive

Similar accusations were made by the inner circle of Kiambu Mafia that he was responsible for bombings. What followed? JM was assassinated plunging the country into chaos.

No proof was ever found that JM was connected with those bombings.

But why am I bothering, anyone who went past class 3 knows that if the government had any proof that Baba had Al Shabaab connections, he would be languishing in jail.

How can you not find proof if its there and yet the man is watched 24 - 7 by the security apparatus? If indeed the proof is there and the security apparatus cant find it, why don't you guys insist that the heads of the security apparatus get fired so that someone more competent is employed so that the evidence against Baba can be found?


I am surprised that the real questions are not being addressed. Your statements imply that the people in government are not capable hence the reason Baba is walking free. I say if Baba is guilty, arrest him and charge him. I pay taxes to be protected and not to be inundated with conspiracy theories.
alma
#344 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:16:25 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
you're right accelriskconsult, if Raila is causing all this mayhem and doing it on Ole Nenku's watch, then it means that Raila is smarter than Ole Nenku and should probably be in charge.

Gov't has failed in its core mandate PERIOD. When citizens see that they only way to protect themselves is bearing arms, then we are in the land of Zamunda and making movies to scare terrorists.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Robinhood
#345 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:18:22 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/11/2008
Posts: 2,306
accelriskconsult wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
Jubilee supporters, the demonstrations you plan to hold are targeting the wrong people. Baba has no mandate to protect you and me. You will demonstrate and we shall continue dying.

How can a government claim that an opposition leader is responsible for a massacre and not offer any evidence when it has the Police, NIS, GSU and KDF at its disposal? Is that not an admission of incompetence on the part of the government. If you claim Baba is responsible for the attack, arrest him and put him on his defence.
It is a sorry state when propaganda and besmirching of opponents dominates official government statements. Hata Moi hakufika hiyo level



The govt must have some evidence for it to have made such a statement. Remember that baba was also recently pictured with alshabab sympathizers (youths who were flying alshabab flags at masjid mosque, and killed policemen) at tononoka including rogo's son. Let me find that piksha and post it.



Then why not arrest him and charge him?
Do you know the circumstances that led to the assassination of JM Kariuki?

http://www.the-star.co.k...ariukis-last-days-alive

Similar accusations were made by the inner circle of Kiambu Mafia that he was responsible for bombings. What followed? JM was assassinated plunging the country into chaos.

No proof was ever found that JM was connected with those bombings.

But why am I bothering, anyone who went past class 3 knows that if the government had any proof that Baba had Al Shabaab connections, he would be languishing in jail.

How can you not find proof if its there and yet the man is watched 24 - 7 by the security apparatus? If indeed the proof is there and the security apparatus cant find it, why don't you guys insist that the heads of the security apparatus get fired so that someone more competent is employed so that the evidence against Baba can be found?


I am surprised that the real questions are not being addressed. Your statements imply that the people in government are not capable hence the reason Baba is walking free. I say if Baba is guilty, arrest him and charge him. I pay taxes to be protected and not to be inundated with conspiracy theories.


The mandate of these guys is to follow CORD bosses everywhere. NSIS is busy gathering all evidence of RAO crossing the red line that they cannot see Al Shabab even after AS claimed responsibility for the attack. Everyone knows what happened in Lamu save the police, NSIS, KDF and anyone else who could have done something to stop the attack.

In the meantime, Lenku speaks like a school prefect while Mr light bulb will make you cry if he dares open his mouth. Gen Karangi on the other hand would rather recruit D- guys while the enemy has smart folks on his employ. We are doomed.

To the Jubilee supporters who believe Raila caused today's morning cold. People will continue to die, you will continue in denial, and most of the dead will be CORD supporters - ooh wait, Al Shabab cannot distinguish between Jubilee and CORD guys, they just kill whoever looks like a Christian. It must be hard admitting that your guy is failing spectacularly, but that's life
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
McReggae
#346 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:20:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Yaani from Kimaiyo, Dengu, Karangi, Gishangi, Muhoro......upto now they have nothing....if the police were hiding to avoid ambush, they would have ambushed the attackers when they were leaving but so far, not even one attacker.....we are being a joke!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#347 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:21:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Robinhood wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
Jubilee supporters, the demonstrations you plan to hold are targeting the wrong people. Baba has no mandate to protect you and me. You will demonstrate and we shall continue dying.

How can a government claim that an opposition leader is responsible for a massacre and not offer any evidence when it has the Police, NIS, GSU and KDF at its disposal? Is that not an admission of incompetence on the part of the government. If you claim Baba is responsible for the attack, arrest him and put him on his defence.
It is a sorry state when propaganda and besmirching of opponents dominates official government statements. Hata Moi hakufika hiyo level



The govt must have some evidence for it to have made such a statement. Remember that baba was also recently pictured with alshabab sympathizers (youths who were flying alshabab flags at masjid mosque, and killed policemen) at tononoka including rogo's son. Let me find that piksha and post it.



Then why not arrest him and charge him?
Do you know the circumstances that led to the assassination of JM Kariuki?

http://www.the-star.co.k...ariukis-last-days-alive

Similar accusations were made by the inner circle of Kiambu Mafia that he was responsible for bombings. What followed? JM was assassinated plunging the country into chaos.

No proof was ever found that JM was connected with those bombings.

But why am I bothering, anyone who went past class 3 knows that if the government had any proof that Baba had Al Shabaab connections, he would be languishing in jail.

How can you not find proof if its there and yet the man is watched 24 - 7 by the security apparatus? If indeed the proof is there and the security apparatus cant find it, why don't you guys insist that the heads of the security apparatus get fired so that someone more competent is employed so that the evidence against Baba can be found?


I am surprised that the real questions are not being addressed. Your statements imply that the people in government are not capable hence the reason Baba is walking free. I say if Baba is guilty, arrest him and charge him. I pay taxes to be protected and not to be inundated with conspiracy theories.


The mandate of these guys is to follow CORD bosses everywhere. NSIS is busy gathering all evidence of RAO crossing the red line that they cannot see Al Shabab even after AS claimed responsibility for the attack. Everyone knows what happened in Lamu save the police, NSIS, KDF and anyone else who could have done something to stop the attack.

In the meantime, Lenku speaks like a school prefect while Mr light bulb will make you cry if he dares open his mouth. Gen Karangi on the other hand would rather recruit D- guys while the enemy has smart folks on his employ. We are doomed.

To the Jubilee supporters who believe Raila caused today's morning cold. People will continue to die, you will continue in denial, and most of the dead will be CORD supporters - ooh wait, Al Shabab cannot distinguish between Jubilee and CORD guys, they just kill whoever looks like a Christian. It must be hard admitting that your guy is failing spectacularly, but that's life


The bitter truth!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
2012
#348 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:23:51 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Is it true that the attackers returned again last night despite the heavy security?? If that is true then all these people manning the security docket should be in jail! We need a no nonsense IG like General Ali.

BBI will solve it
:)
McReggae
#349 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:29:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
The other day, NIS was able to nab a drunkard talking ill about Uhuru.....
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Pedes
#350 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:35:27 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/30/2013
Posts: 659
McReggae wrote:
Yaani from Kimaiyo, Dengu, Karangi, Gishangi, Muhoro......upto now they have nothing....if the police were hiding to avoid ambush, they would have ambushed the attackers when they were leaving but so far, not even one attacker.....we are being a joke!!!


Once had a chat with an AP. The guy told me "amenusurika kifo mara tatu Bargoi", he's seen his colleagues mowed down by bullets, and left for vultures. Since that day he views his job as a career not something to die for. Now try sending guys with such a mid set in the middle of the night to some mashinani....anaweza uma tyre ya gari ipate puncture ndio wasifikie kifo
If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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