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KCB buy buy buy
mlennyma
#341 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:51:33 AM
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hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?
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hisah
#342 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:31:15 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).
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sparkly
#343 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:36:25 PM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.
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Aguytrying
#344 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:03:37 PM
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sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.


In contrast equity bank doesn't frequently do rights issue. Tells us all we need to know about the king of growth
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Ericsson
#345 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:20:41 PM
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What is the tax on script dividend.
I can see in the circular that there is some tax to be charged
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
watesh
#346 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 3:47:29 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.


In contrast equity bank doesn't frequently do rights issue. Tells us all we need to know about the king of growth

Equity has actually never done a rights issue, they are set to do one next year. KCB they have had quite a number
enyands
#347 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 4:12:30 PM
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Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
watesh wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.


In contrast equity bank doesn't frequently do rights issue. Tells us all we need to know about the king of growth

Equity has actually never done a rights issue, they are set to do one next year. KCB they have had quite a number

With govt involvement anything is possible
sparkly
#348 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:49:33 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
watesh wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.


In contrast equity bank doesn't frequently do rights issue. Tells us all we need to know about the king of growth

Equity has actually never done a rights issue, they are set to do one next year. KCB they have had quite a number


Link?
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#349 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2016 10:08:01 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Details of the KCB rights issue will be out once they are done with the script dividend allocation.
At that time they will now be able to know the allocation formula.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
watesh
#350 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2016 9:50:26 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
sparkly wrote:
watesh wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
From TA perspective, the support cluster at 38 - 39 level had better hold. Otherwise the bears threat target projections are 35 then 30. Again I ask, why a rights issue in this defensive market. It sends an ugly signal.
One of KCB's Capital Adequacy Ratio's excess was quite thin at FY 2015. The 10bn [& Scrip Dividend] is needed for the Chase acquisition + expansion.

True. Even more urgent with the Chase deal on the table. But the market has been moving against banks months before. That's what I'm pointing out.

should we expect a similar move by member going forward?

Line in the sand is 35 - 37 zone. Below that bears will aim for the 30 handle. Bulls need to push above 45 handle to put off the bear pressure. For now it's just a push-pull in between (ranging - sideways market).


I don't get it why KCB only finance growth, acquisitions through owner's equity. They have to go back to shareholders every 3-5 years. Not optimal, cost of equity is not cheap.


In contrast equity bank doesn't frequently do rights issue. Tells us all we need to know about the king of growth

Equity has actually never done a rights issue, they are set to do one next year. KCB they have had quite a number


Link?

Full year results announcents video, they will need the money to go into new markets (Mozambique, Zambia)
So far they sitting on 10bn for Ethiopia and more billions to capitalize DRC and Tanzania
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