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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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harrydre wrote:it's more of disorganization, mismanagement, last minute planning and overall lack of seriousness and preparedness.
How come we do well in better managed sports like Rugby, Volleyball, Athletics.... That's where you are losing the plot! We do well in those sports in spite of mismanagement. For example,kenya athletes have very high burn out rate.Very few survive more than two seasons.We are fortunate that the talent conveyor belt churns out raw talent continuosly. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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kaka2za wrote:harrydre wrote:it's more of disorganization, mismanagement, last minute planning and overall lack of seriousness and preparedness.
How come we do well in better managed sports like Rugby, Volleyball, Athletics.... That's where you are losing the plot! We do well in those sports in spite of mismanagement. For example,kenya athletes have very high burn out rate.Very few survive more than two seasons.We are fortunate that the talent conveyor belt churns out raw talent continuosly. Yes they are mismanaged but not as bad as football, ongeza stone throwing Sirkal and you have total chaos. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,936
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harrydre wrote:kaka2za wrote:harrydre wrote:it's more of disorganization, mismanagement, last minute planning and overall lack of seriousness and preparedness.
How come we do well in better managed sports like Rugby, Volleyball, Athletics.... That's where you are losing the plot! We do well in those sports in spite of mismanagement. For example,kenya athletes have very high burn out rate.Very few survive more than two seasons.We are fortunate that the talent conveyor belt churns out raw talent continuosly. Yes they are mismanaged but not as bad as football, ongeza stone throwing Sirkal and you have total chaos. Dont blame Sirkal on this but lack of talent. In a nation (state) of approx. 45 million, you cannot pinpoint 50 talented footballers who can be called upon to represent the country and win games. You cannot even name Harambee eleven. We are not talented in football. Period. Minnows!!! Volleyball and 7s Rugby afadhali!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Tunashindangwa mpaka schools. We take our schools to Rwanda and UG wipes the table with us. Kama kwa shule hatuwezi... ni miujiza gani tunataka? I remember while playing rugby we would beat east African sides and this would be projected forward to national teams. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Tunashindangwa mpaka schools. We take our schools to Rwanda and UG wipes the table with us. Kama kwa shule hatuwezi... ni miujiza gani tunataka? I remember while playing rugby we would beat east African sides and this would be projected forward to national teams. Let's not fear losing games. If we lose a lot then it means we need to do a lot of learning. Question is are we willing to learn? Consider what the Chinese are doing about football; learning, investing, designing their own institutions ... people like Sven Ericsson even think that China may be able to win the world cup in even ten years though the Chinese think it may take longer. Before Germany took the world cup last time, I saw a documentary in which various academic disciplines were involved in preparing a winning team... and yes, money was poured into the venture. That is, intelligence was increased. But here we don't value intelligence or we think it can't be improved. We want to win easy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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kaka2za wrote:
Our youth teams also try to compete.Only that they are thrashed in the preliminary stages.
Sorry but our youth teams do not compete at all. A coach is assigned 3 days and the team is assembled 3 days before a match. That is not enough time to prepare for a match. And often the team is poorly selected. Then they are asked to compete against teams that have been preparing and playing friendlies for several months. And due to poor travel arrangements, they land at the airport only hours before the match.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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kaka2za wrote:
That's where you are losing the plot!
We do well in those sports in spite of mismanagement.
For example,kenya athletes have very high burn out rate.Very few survive more than two seasons.We are fortunate that the talent conveyor belt churns out raw talent continuosly.
That is bogus. Kenya does well in rugby because most other countries do not take it as seriously as Kenya does. The same applies to volleyball. In many countries in Africa like Ghana, Congo, Senegal, Mali etc, rugby is basically non-existent and is played mostly by expatriates. The natives do not play. How well a country does in a team sport depends on how seriously people take it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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Alba wrote:kaka2za wrote:
That's where you are losing the plot!
We do well in those sports in spite of mismanagement.
For example,kenya athletes have very high burn out rate.Very few survive more than two seasons.We are fortunate that the talent conveyor belt churns out raw talent continuosly.
That is bogus. Kenya does well in rugby because most other countries do not take it as seriously as Kenya does. The same applies to volleyball. In many countries in Africa like Ghana, Congo, Senegal, Mali etc, rugby is basically non-existent and is played mostly by expatriates. The natives do not play. How well a country does in a team sport depends on how seriously people take it. Are you sure about the highlighted part, we've been good in the sevens version of the game but don't think its the same for regular rugby.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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this does not only apply in sports, even in your own work and projects, planning takes the most of the time. if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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We do not lack talent. Who will identify it, nurture it, and expose it to the world? Even the best need these three things to happen, otherwise they waste away. The guys who play for our teams sometimes just do so for the love of the game, not because the clubs care or pay for their time. But choosing a third division coach for the national team was laughable. You need experience at high levels of football to crack this. Ati coach wa Mathare sharks (or whatever the thing is called... Nkt  Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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