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US Elections, Hillary or Trump?
Anti_Burglar
#661 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:11:34 AM
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masukuma
#662 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:26:25 AM
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it's true - it's a statistical dead heat more on
http://www.realclearpoli...om/epolls/latest_polls/
Surprisingly some of these polls have swung in the last 7 days or so (the FBI announcement must have something to do with it). I guess when the tide is out we shall know which polling agencies were swimming ndethe! LA Times/USC Tracking is at +4 on trump (outside the statistical margin of error), Rasmussen Reports is a tie, IBD/TIPP Tracking is on Clinton (+1) within the margin of error and so is the ABC/Wash Post Tracking!
So... Yes, Donald Trump has a path to victory. I think Florida has gone Trump's way (outside the statistical margin of error) and Nevada and North Carolina may go his way.... That leaves Colorado and New Hampshire if Clinton loses those - she is toast! She is loosing momentum and bleeding electoral votes.
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Anti_Burglar
#663 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:21:37 AM
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masukuma wrote:


it's true - it's a statistical dead heat more on
http://www.realclearpoli...om/epolls/latest_polls/
Surprisingly some of these polls have swung in the last 7 days or so (the FBI announcement must have something to do with it). I guess when the tide is out we shall know which polling agencies were swimming ndethe! LA Times/USC Tracking is at +4 on trump (outside the statistical margin of error), Rasmussen Reports is a tie, IBD/TIPP Tracking is on Clinton (+1) within the margin of error and so is the ABC/Wash Post Tracking!
So... Yes, Donald Trump has a path to victory. I think Florida has gone Trump's way (outside the statistical margin of error) and Nevada and North Carolina may go his way.... That leaves Colorado and New Hampshire if Clinton loses those - she is toast! She is loosing momentum and bleeding electoral votes.


Agreement!
Intelligentsia
#664 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:28:19 AM
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Reading the book, The Plot To Hack America by Malcom Nance on how Putin and his cyber spies have tried to subtly influence the U.S Elections, by dumping critical anti-Clinton/ Pro-Trump data on wikileaks and other sources at critical times.
Its amazing. That Putin guy is really formidable, had the temerity to hack into DNC computers and use the knowledge to his own advantage.
masukuma
#665 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:49:52 AM
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If there was a system where people would trade their votes... (and keep it siri)....to people in the battle ground states coz a trump vote in Wyoming is wasted and an additional Clinton vote in New York, DC or California is wasted!!
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#666 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:48:23 PM
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This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again
masukuma
#667 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:33:27 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.
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harrydre
#668 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:40:30 PM
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masukuma wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.


People came out and voted. Not sure if that will happen this year. Trump has very slim chances and would need even PA or Michigan or another big blue state to win the college votes.
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#669 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 7:56:09 PM
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harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.


People came out and voted. Not sure if that will happen this year. Trump has very slim chances and would need even PA or Michigan or another big blue state to win the college votes.

He has done alot of both PA and MI lately. Waiting to see if Bobby Knight will help him with MI.
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#670 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:20:26 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.


People came out and voted. Not sure if that will happen this year. Trump has very slim chances and would need even PA or Michigan or another big blue state to win the college votes.

He has done alot of both PA and MI lately. Waiting to see if Bobby Knight will help him with MI.


Trumps waterloo is in Nevada.

Stop watching the polls they mean very little now. Watch the turnout. That is what is going to win or lose the elections now. Polls are always skewed in the last week. Ask Romney, Bush Snr and Kerry. They were leading at this point only to realise that their supporters didn't show up.

http://www.nytimes.com/i...-vote-tracker.html?_r=0

It's close but with the weekend coming, unless someone smokes weed on TV, the turnout is what matters.
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hardwood
#671 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:33:41 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.


People came out and voted. Not sure if that will happen this year. Trump has very slim chances and would need even PA or Michigan or another big blue state to win the college votes.

He has done alot of both PA and MI lately. Waiting to see if Bobby Knight will help him with MI.


Trumps waterloo is in Nevada.

Stop watching the polls they mean very little now. Watch the turnout. That is what is going to win or lose the elections now. Polls are always skewed in the last week. Ask Romney, Bush Snr and Kerry. They were leading at this point only to realise that their supporters didn't show up.

http://www.nytimes.com/i...-vote-tracker.html?_r=0

It's close but with the weekend coming, unless someone smokes weed on TV, the turnout is what matters.



Whaaaat? You people have been quoting the CNN polls where Hillary was supposedly leading but now that Rais Trump has surged ahead and is leading you say we should ignore the polls? @Alma what have you just smoked ? Must be bangi + mbegu. As @masukumawiki says data is data and you cant argue with data. And the data says Hon Trump is next POTUS. #DrainTheSwamp #MAGA

alma1
#672 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:42:54 PM
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hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
This election is not as tough as 2012's where Obama was facing Willard Romney.
It might be close on popular vote but Trumps paths to electoral college are slim... not impossible but slim.

On 9th Nov. Trump will wake up feeling lying dying while his supporters will be imploding.. civil strife and racist attacks in the Red States!
which ever way.. USA will never be the same again

I remember going to bed thinking Obama had lost but he somehow pulled a win on both electoral college and number of votes.


People came out and voted. Not sure if that will happen this year. Trump has very slim chances and would need even PA or Michigan or another big blue state to win the college votes.

He has done alot of both PA and MI lately. Waiting to see if Bobby Knight will help him with MI.


Trumps waterloo is in Nevada.

Stop watching the polls they mean very little now. Watch the turnout. That is what is going to win or lose the elections now. Polls are always skewed in the last week. Ask Romney, Bush Snr and Kerry. They were leading at this point only to realise that their supporters didn't show up.

http://www.nytimes.com/i...-vote-tracker.html?_r=0

It's close but with the weekend coming, unless someone smokes weed on TV, the turnout is what matters.





Whaaaat? You people have been quoting the CNN polls where Hillary was supposedly leading but now that Rais Trump has surged ahead and is leading you say we should ignore the polls? @Alma what have you just smoked ? Must be bangi + mbegu. As @masukumawiki says data is data and you cant argue with data. And the data says Hon Trump is next POTUS.


My friend, unlike you I don't smoke personalities only numbers.

I'm looking at data. I can assure you that voters rarely if ever change their votes in the last week. In case you forgot, Tuesday is election day.

The only thing that matters now is GOTV.

If you can read, just go through this and start identifying the weak points in the Clinton campaign and the Strong points in the Trump campaign

http://www.electproject.org/early_2016

I will bet my moniker that Trump won't carry PA. Can't and won't happen.

However, he has hope in NC, Michigan and FL

That's the reason you see Clinton going to Michigan next week.

It's fun right now so please don't quote another Trump tweet. Let's go down to the numbers. It's what matters right now and that's why you see both teams working rather than tweeting.
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harrydre
#673 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:39:13 AM
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masukuma
#674 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:00:47 AM
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Early polls can be misleading... in the sunshine state early gave Romney an early lead but mambo yakakuwa mengine when the full vote came in. The other thing is Black voters have not come in to do early voting... what does this mean? are they still uncertain compared when Brother Obama was on the ballot? I think so. Latinos have showed up in droves - Latinos form 14% of Florida's population and Blacks.

North Carolina is behaving in the same way it behaved in 2012... Democrats are up in the early vote by kitu 200k votes (in 2012 they were up by 290k) but they still lost the final vote in the tar heel state...be it narrowly!

P.S.
I am of the Opinion that early voting is not healthy!! Elections are measurements...of intent at a point in time. if something drastic was to happen between the early vote and November 8th - it would change the intent of those who want to vote on 8th of November but the decision made by the early voters will not be changed.
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2012
#675 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:51:55 AM
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I hope the U.S. gets the leader they deserve. Trump.

BBI will solve it
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hardwood
#676 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:02:11 PM
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Florida is a Trump zone. Numbers dont lie.

Trump Florida rally...





Hillary Florida rally...

hardwood
#677 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:10:33 PM
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More photos from Florida.


Trump Rally...






Poor Hillary...

hardwood
#678 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:39:34 PM
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Meanwhile angry protesters have been invading and disrupting Hillary rallies...















harrydre
#679 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 2:46:48 PM
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hardwood wrote:
More photos from Florida.


Trump Rally...






Poor Hillary...



We have Google too...




i.am.back!!!!
hardwood
#680 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 3:34:58 PM
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This one is below the belt..


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