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2017 Election results
murchr
#641 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:27:01 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Kanu has won both Governor and Senate seats in West Pokot. Gideon Moi has retained his senate seat in Baringo and Nick Salat got 100k votes in Bomet. Ruto must be very uncomfortable, a resurgent Kanu will be a force to reckon with in 2022.


Hapana. Kanu will be supporting his Presidency


Gideon Moi and William Ruto are only on the same side because of Uhuru Kenyatta. Take Uhuru out and they are bitter rivals.


Kanu is a dead horse. Gideon can never outsmart the wit of WSR. He will have to respect the don. Watch this space
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Kusadikika
#642 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:42:27 PM
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murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Kanu has won both Governor and Senate seats in West Pokot. Gideon Moi has retained his senate seat in Baringo and Nick Salat got 100k votes in Bomet. Ruto must be very uncomfortable, a resurgent Kanu will be a force to reckon with in 2022.


Hapana. Kanu will be supporting his Presidency


Gideon Moi and William Ruto are only on the same side because of Uhuru Kenyatta. Take Uhuru out and they are bitter rivals.


Kanu is a dead horse. Gideon can never outsmart the wit of WSR. He will have to respect the don. Watch this space


By 2022 Kanu will have been out of power for 20 years. There will be people voting in 2022 who will have been born after Kanu lost power. Jubilee will have been in power for 10 years in 2022. That is enough time to make enough mistakes to get some people disgruntled and imagine a glorious past in the Kanu days. Politics is very dynamic and you cannot write off a once household brand name like Kanu.
murchr
#643 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:44:54 PM
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alma1 wrote:
I think people should just chill a bit.

Here is a statement by KNHCR with data comparing just a few of the results vs the "portal"

Just with that information a prudent IT manager would require a manual check of their excel sheet.

Please listening to all these IT manenos. MySQL servers, VMware na kadhalika. IT guys only make money when they use difficult words to explain an excel sheet.

If what was input in even 1 polling station in the "portal" is not what was in the form 34a, the IEBC must check ALL the other form 34s. The law sio bloggers paradise. I'm thinking this is the reason FRM2011 was sooo insistent on counting their votes even in mashinani.

In my personal view, Uhuru may win but I wouldn't read anything coming from that portal until the OFFICIAL results come in. Na bloggers wa Nasa on Twirra tafadhali, there are also chances that Uhuru increases his lead with manual tallying.

http://www.khrc.or.ke/images/docs/KYSYPRESSSTATEMENT09AUG2017.pdf

For the real results without Media and blogger interference go to

https://forms.iebc.or.ke/

You can be your own tallying centre.



Alma what is Form 34A?
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Lolest!
#644 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:50:09 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This article seems to point to the DB not being an Oracle one. http://www.the-star.co.k...e-in-iebc-kits_c1557396
Quote:
The software is supposed to be used alongside the election equipment, the Kenya Integrated Elections Management System, delivered by French firm Safran Identity and Security that was awarded the tender.

READ: IEBC settles for Safran for poll equipment, says deadlines must be met

CEO Ezra Chiloba yesterday however said there was no issue on the software powering the KIEMS technology for verification.

“The kits do not run on Oracle neither do they need an Oracle licence to operate.


KIEMS KITS i.e. the ones you saw in the polling station don't use Oracle. These kits call home and all of that data lands somewhere... that "somewhere" is where the "hacking" is supposed to have happened.

Exactly. So that somewhere runs on?
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#645 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:50:24 PM
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Independent candidate Japheth Kavinga has conceded defeat after provisional results show he is sixth in the presidential race with 11,256 votes.

Mr Kavinga says he sees no chance of bridging the gap between him and the leading candidates.

Source- Daily Nation
Kusadikika
#646 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 4:54:49 PM
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If Raila is a true leader he should groom and name a successor. ODM is still a formidable party. The Luhya have been very loyal to him and naming a Luhya successor would be the ultimate thank you.
urstill1
#647 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:03:03 PM
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washiku wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Chebukati just wants to confirm that whatever he announces will stand in court.Otherwise figures being streamed from the IEBC website wont change


How now? The results from the website have some differences from the said forms as can be seen in this KHRR report. Why can't they change?

http://www.khrc.or.ke/images/docs/KYSYPRESSSTATEMENT09AUG2017.pdf

Either way, the best Joshua can get from these results is a runoff, which I highly doubt.


Let's hope the discrepancies will add about 2m votes to RAOs basket coz that is the only way he can beat UK. Yes, 2m in discrepancies.


Keeping all other facts constant as at now, all RAO maybe praying for is that Uhuru's numbers are reduced by at least 637,340 votes to force a run-off.
Flo-ology
#648 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:26:33 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This article seems to point to the DB not being an Oracle one. http://www.the-star.co.k...e-in-iebc-kits_c1557396
Quote:
The software is supposed to be used alongside the election equipment, the Kenya Integrated Elections Management System, delivered by French firm Safran Identity and Security that was awarded the tender.

READ: IEBC settles for Safran for poll equipment, says deadlines must be met

CEO Ezra Chiloba yesterday however said there was no issue on the software powering the KIEMS technology for verification.

“The kits do not run on Oracle neither do they need an Oracle licence to operate.


KIEMS KITS i.e. the ones you saw in the polling station don't use Oracle. These kits call home and all of that data lands somewhere... that "somewhere" is where the "hacking" is supposed to have happened.

Exactly. So that somewhere runs on?


That 'somewhere' is the RTS database which runs on a database which could be either MS SQL or Oracle. Also note that there is the main KIEMS DB which contains voter biometrics and all other details. This most likely is Oracle because of the intensity of tables and transactions it handles which MS SQL won't handle well
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alma1
#649 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:31:08 PM
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Na hawa watu wa Nasa. Kumbe that tallying center in the clouds was just fake stories. Surely by this time, they should have had all their agents data in their own database. Like a 20k laptop.

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murchr
#650 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:36:18 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Na hawa watu wa Nasa. Kumbe that tallying center in the clouds was just fake stories. Surely by this time, they should have had all their agents data in their own database. Like a 20k laptop.

Chebukati toa hii maneno tuendelee na kazi jameni.


Again what is Form 34A?
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#651 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:38:58 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This article seems to point to the DB not being an Oracle one. http://www.the-star.co.k...e-in-iebc-kits_c1557396
Quote:
The software is supposed to be used alongside the election equipment, the Kenya Integrated Elections Management System, delivered by French firm Safran Identity and Security that was awarded the tender.

READ: IEBC settles for Safran for poll equipment, says deadlines must be met

CEO Ezra Chiloba yesterday however said there was no issue on the software powering the KIEMS technology for verification.

“The kits do not run on Oracle neither do they need an Oracle licence to operate.


KIEMS KITS i.e. the ones you saw in the polling station don't use Oracle. These kits call home and all of that data lands somewhere... that "somewhere" is where the "hacking" is supposed to have happened.

Exactly. So that somewhere runs on?


That 'somewhere' is the RTS database which runs on a database which could be either MS SQL or Oracle. Also note that there is the main KIEMS DB which contains voter biometrics and all other details. This most likely is Oracle because of the intensity of tables and transactions it handles which MS SQL won't handle well

This is a small transaction system, 40k stations any DB system should handle that without issues.
masukuma
#652 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:46:09 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This article seems to point to the DB not being an Oracle one. http://www.the-star.co.k...e-in-iebc-kits_c1557396
Quote:
The software is supposed to be used alongside the election equipment, the Kenya Integrated Elections Management System, delivered by French firm Safran Identity and Security that was awarded the tender.

READ: IEBC settles for Safran for poll equipment, says deadlines must be met

CEO Ezra Chiloba yesterday however said there was no issue on the software powering the KIEMS technology for verification.

“The kits do not run on Oracle neither do they need an Oracle licence to operate.


KIEMS KITS i.e. the ones you saw in the polling station don't use Oracle. These kits call home and all of that data lands somewhere... that "somewhere" is where the "hacking" is supposed to have happened.

Exactly. So that somewhere runs on?


That 'somewhere' is the RTS database which runs on a database which could be either MS SQL or Oracle. Also note that there is the main KIEMS DB which contains voter biometrics and all other details. This most likely is Oracle because of the intensity of tables and transactions it handles which MS SQL won't handle well

what intensity?
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murchr
#653 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:49:33 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This article seems to point to the DB not being an Oracle one. http://www.the-star.co.k...e-in-iebc-kits_c1557396
Quote:
The software is supposed to be used alongside the election equipment, the Kenya Integrated Elections Management System, delivered by French firm Safran Identity and Security that was awarded the tender.

READ: IEBC settles for Safran for poll equipment, says deadlines must be met

CEO Ezra Chiloba yesterday however said there was no issue on the software powering the KIEMS technology for verification.

“The kits do not run on Oracle neither do they need an Oracle licence to operate.


KIEMS KITS i.e. the ones you saw in the polling station don't use Oracle. These kits call home and all of that data lands somewhere... that "somewhere" is where the "hacking" is supposed to have happened.

Exactly. So that somewhere runs on?


That 'somewhere' is the RTS database which runs on a database which could be either MS SQL or Oracle. Also note that there is the main KIEMS DB which contains voter biometrics and all other details. This most likely is Oracle because of the intensity of tables and transactions it handles which MS SQL won't handle well

what intensity?


Easy masukush, probably he meant size. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Ngalaka
#654 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:50:09 PM
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I guess Chebukati is planning to pronounce the presidential vote winner in the night to manage the anticipated running amok of goons.
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#655 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:54:14 PM
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murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Na hawa watu wa Nasa. Kumbe that tallying center in the clouds was just fake stories. Surely by this time, they should have had all their agents data in their own database. Like a 20k laptop.

Chebukati toa hii maneno tuendelee na kazi jameni.


Again what is Form 34A?


34A = Forms with results from individual voting stream.
34B = Summary of former 34As at constituency level.

Both are needed to declare presidential results.
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#656 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:11:00 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
I guess Chebukati is planning to pronounce the presidential vote winner in the night to manage the anticipated running amok of goons.

Does the canstitution allow such?
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Ngalaka
#657 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:18:24 PM
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thuks wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
I guess Chebukati is planning to pronounce the presidential vote winner in the night to manage the anticipated running amok of goons.

Does the canstitution allow such?

Constitution prescribing what time to announce election results! - that's a stretch.
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#658 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:18:48 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
I guess Chebukati is planning to pronounce the presidential vote winner in the night to manage the anticipated running amok of goons.


The best thing that Chebukati did to ease tensions is to allow the numbers to go live even as he waits to do the final announcement which will be a big anticlimax because people have already accepted. It will be very difficult even for Baba to call mass action. Even the most die hard Baba supporter who believes votes have been stolen will look at that 1.4 million vote difference and just give up. Governors,MPs and MCAs who have already won have no incentive to cause problems. The only people who are invested in Baba winning and do not have anything now are Muthama and Jymmy Wah-Nje-geh and they do not have any masses to mobilize.
Kusadikika
#659 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:25:54 PM
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I think the biggest upsets have been in the Governor's races. Watu hawataki nyef nyef. Show us something on the ground or you go home.
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#660 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:32:41 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
If Raila is a true leader he should groom and name a successor. ODM is still a formidable party. The Luhya have been very loyal to him and naming a Luhya successor would be the ultimate thank you.


To be done silently to avoid the 'project' stigma.
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