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Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:
@Ngalaka surely, there should be objectivity. If the matter is before the court, why is he being asked to re-apply for citizenship? He can only be deemed a Kenyan non citizen once the court decides so.As of now, he is KENYAN citizen and the same court ordered that he be issued with travel docs and his entry be facilitated ama pia tumefika kwa selective understanding
No, the corect position is; - As at now the matter of his citizenship is contested, disputed by the Govt of Kenya. There are two views, his and Govt's. Only the courts can rule one way or the other. He needs to enter Kenya to carry out his business some of which is litigate over this matter. To enter Kenya he can; 1. Use his Canadian passport 2. Apply to get a Kenyan passport - and the process is laid down as told to him by the Immigration. So we trash the court orders? I am not persuaded that there are any Court orders that compel the Govt to issue him with a fresh passport. A very broad&liberal reading of what you posted up there might be misconstrued to mean so, but I have other 'ideas' The court didn't ask for for a new passport to be issued. The court orders suspended ID suspension of MM passport and ordered that he be issued with travel documents and his entry be facilitated- I wonder why I feel this is simple English to me. As to whether the travel docs is issuing a new passport, restating his passport or issuing travel papers is up to the Ke govt. You cannot have other court orders and other ideas while keeping them to yourself and expect us to believe you ChiefIf Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Mukiri wrote:KulaRaha wrote:However, methinks there is more than meets the eye here...I dont think UK and RAO want to jeopardise the handshake...this looks like a play from someone very powerful who feels they must undermine the handshake...
ama namna gani my fren? Didn't you see RAO send an SMS and immediately the general was 'escorted' The SMS said, it is finished, he's gone "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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murchr wrote:Mukiri wrote:KulaRaha wrote:However, methinks there is more than meets the eye here...I dont think UK and RAO want to jeopardise the handshake...this looks like a play from someone very powerful who feels they must undermine the handshake...
ama namna gani my fren? Didn't you see RAO send an SMS and immediately the general was 'escorted' The SMS said, it is finished, he's gone RAO is sly If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:jgithige wrote:hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:And just like that Miguna Miguna becomes more famous.
No airline can take a rowdy passenger. None. Kenya is about to get that US to Kenya direct flight.
Saa zingine you have to wonder what type of thinking goes on with gov't officials.
Sending goons into the airport without clearance to push a passenger into a plane is the height of sillyness.
If Miguna refuses to go, then what?
By the way, the fella is a Kenyan watu wapende wasipende. Wapost wazua wasipost. Even if you take a piece of paper called a passport. He's still a Kenyan. Get used to it.
Total waste of time when Kenyans have bigger issues to deal with. Like fake honey. No airport can allow an international traveler to pass a point of entry without a passport. This is not a fish market. Miguna would have submitted his Canadian passport which is what he used to travel and ride direct to Nyayo hse for his kenyan passport. JKIA has just passed a test. They've proved to FAA that they can not be intimidated by a bully. Why can't the gaarment use his confiscated Ke PP? Don't they have it Because it was invalidated and destroyed/perforated as it had been acquired illegally. Question if you have a Kenyan ID forget even the passport shouldn't you be allowed into Kenya? In some youtube video one can see Miguna flash out an ID for Kenya @jgithige first issue is that Miguna is holding a Kenyan national ID illegally. Under the old constitution he was supposed to hand in all documents that identify him as Kenyan as soon as he acquired Canadian citizenship. Secondly the Kenyan national ID cannot be used as a travel document except within the EAC excluding Tanzania and Burundi. If he was clever he would have flown from Dubai to Uganda using his Canadian passport and enter Kenya from Uganda using is illegally held National ID. The first before your first, The Judge order ID to issue Miguna with travel docs and facilitate his entry into Kenya...What's your understanding of that order? A visa issued on his Canadian passport is a valid document A visa is not a travel document but a travel facilitation document. ID were required to ISSUE travel docs and FACILITATE his entry back to Kenya Eeh a visa is not a travel document? Present your valid visa in your expired passport to any immigration and report back here Go to JKIA with your passport without a canadian visa and tell us if you leave Kenya. Just for your lazy eye A visa (from the Latin charta visa, meaning "paper which has been seen")[1] is a conditional authorization granted by a country to a foreigner, allowing them to enter, remain within, or to leave that country. Visas typically include limits on the duration of the foreigner's stay, territory within the country they may enter, the dates they may enter, the number of permitted visits or an individual's right to work in the country in question. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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LSK take on the issue. Seems they are also tired of migunas nonsense.  
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You cannot be admitted at the airport with an ID. Period! That's what MM attempted to do. He refused to produce his Canadian passport, refused to sign papers for his citizenship to be reinstated. How can he be helped. In my opinion, he is just looking for publicity. i.am.back!!!!
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 this is a lot of primitive energy. Waafrika jameni. i.am.back!!!!
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Funny how some people believe the handshake was "consensual" In other news "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood wrote:LSK take on the issue. Seems they are also tired of migunas nonsense. @ Hardwood you're a funny sycophant. Your behaviour can only be perfectly compared to primitive energy exhibited by the cops at JKIA . John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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From miguna's words what he wants is a "travel document", not a passport to facilitate his entry. He says that this travel document is a letter that can be printed hapo kwa immigration desk. His lawyers had recommended he uses his Canadian passport for entry and he told them off.
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murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:jgithige wrote:hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:And just like that Miguna Miguna becomes more famous.
No airline can take a rowdy passenger. None. Kenya is about to get that US to Kenya direct flight.
Saa zingine you have to wonder what type of thinking goes on with gov't officials.
Sending goons into the airport without clearance to push a passenger into a plane is the height of sillyness.
If Miguna refuses to go, then what?
By the way, the fella is a Kenyan watu wapende wasipende. Wapost wazua wasipost. Even if you take a piece of paper called a passport. He's still a Kenyan. Get used to it.
Total waste of time when Kenyans have bigger issues to deal with. Like fake honey. No airport can allow an international traveler to pass a point of entry without a passport. This is not a fish market. Miguna would have submitted his Canadian passport which is what he used to travel and ride direct to Nyayo hse for his kenyan passport. JKIA has just passed a test. They've proved to FAA that they can not be intimidated by a bully. Why can't the gaarment use his confiscated Ke PP? Don't they have it Because it was invalidated and destroyed/perforated as it had been acquired illegally. Question if you have a Kenyan ID forget even the passport shouldn't you be allowed into Kenya? In some youtube video one can see Miguna flash out an ID for Kenya @jgithige first issue is that Miguna is holding a Kenyan national ID illegally. Under the old constitution he was supposed to hand in all documents that identify him as Kenyan as soon as he acquired Canadian citizenship. Secondly the Kenyan national ID cannot be used as a travel document except within the EAC excluding Tanzania and Burundi. If he was clever he would have flown from Dubai to Uganda using his Canadian passport and enter Kenya from Uganda using is illegally held National ID. The first before your first, The Judge order ID to issue Miguna with travel docs and facilitate his entry into Kenya...What's your understanding of that order? A visa issued on his Canadian passport is a valid document A visa is not a travel document but a travel facilitation document. ID were required to ISSUE travel docs and FACILITATE his entry back to Kenya Eeh a visa is not a travel document? Present your valid visa in your expired passport to any immigration and report back here Go to JKIA with your passport without a canadian visa and tell us if you leave Kenya. Just for your lazy eye A visa (from the Latin charta visa, meaning "paper which has been seen")[1] is a conditional authorization granted by a country to a foreigner, allowing them to enter, remain within, or to leave that country. Visas typically include limits on the duration of the foreigner's stay, territory within the country they may enter, the dates they may enter, the number of permitted visits or an individual's right to work in the country in question. Don't disappiont me, at this rate you will argue yellow fever certificate is a travel document. Assume you have a one year visa into the US and the following two scenerios 1. After 7 months, your passport expires and you were due to travel to Kenya in the 8 months. Will you be able to travel without renewing your passport?Justify your answer  2. After 12 months, you fail to leave US.However, due to an emergency in the 13th Month, you are forced to travel to Kenya, will you be allowed to travel? Justify your answer. Based on your two responses above, a) What is a travel document? b) What is an entry facilitation document? If I'm in the US, I don't need a visa to exit US to travel to Kenya but can you exit US with your expired passport which has a valid US visa? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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How can he be released to appear in court tmr when legally he hasn't entered Kenya??? He must sort his immigration issues first before being let into the country. He can only be released from police custody and let to proceed to the immigration desk to sort his entry.
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I wonder if Jubilee will follow the law and follow court orders. Even the new and improved court orders. oh I'm just kidding. I'm still waiting for laptops. Inaitwa serekal ya mabavu. Then pretend you are following a law that doesn't exist. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:jgithige wrote:hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:And just like that Miguna Miguna becomes more famous.
No airline can take a rowdy passenger. None. Kenya is about to get that US to Kenya direct flight.
Saa zingine you have to wonder what type of thinking goes on with gov't officials.
Sending goons into the airport without clearance to push a passenger into a plane is the height of sillyness.
If Miguna refuses to go, then what?
By the way, the fella is a Kenyan watu wapende wasipende. Wapost wazua wasipost. Even if you take a piece of paper called a passport. He's still a Kenyan. Get used to it.
Total waste of time when Kenyans have bigger issues to deal with. Like fake honey. No airport can allow an international traveler to pass a point of entry without a passport. This is not a fish market. Miguna would have submitted his Canadian passport which is what he used to travel and ride direct to Nyayo hse for his kenyan passport. JKIA has just passed a test. They've proved to FAA that they can not be intimidated by a bully. Why can't the gaarment use his confiscated Ke PP? Don't they have it Because it was invalidated and destroyed/perforated as it had been acquired illegally. Question if you have a Kenyan ID forget even the passport shouldn't you be allowed into Kenya? In some youtube video one can see Miguna flash out an ID for Kenya @jgithige first issue is that Miguna is holding a Kenyan national ID illegally. Under the old constitution he was supposed to hand in all documents that identify him as Kenyan as soon as he acquired Canadian citizenship. Secondly the Kenyan national ID cannot be used as a travel document except within the EAC excluding Tanzania and Burundi. If he was clever he would have flown from Dubai to Uganda using his Canadian passport and enter Kenya from Uganda using is illegally held National ID. The first before your first, The Judge order ID to issue Miguna with travel docs and facilitate his entry into Kenya...What's your understanding of that order? A visa issued on his Canadian passport is a valid document A visa is not a travel document but a travel facilitation document. ID were required to ISSUE travel docs and FACILITATE his entry back to Kenya Eeh a visa is not a travel document? Present your valid visa in your expired passport to any immigration and report back here Go to JKIA with your passport without a canadian visa and tell us if you leave Kenya. Just for your lazy eye A visa (from the Latin charta visa, meaning "paper which has been seen")[1] is a conditional authorization granted by a country to a foreigner, allowing them to enter, remain within, or to leave that country. Visas typically include limits on the duration of the foreigner's stay, territory within the country they may enter, the dates they may enter, the number of permitted visits or an individual's right to work in the country in question. Don't disappiont me, at this rate you will argue yellow fever certificate is a travel document. Assume you have a one year visa into the US and the following two scenerios 1. After 7 months, your passport expires and you were due to travel to Kenya in the 8 months. Will you be able to travel without renewing your passport?Justify your answer 2. After 12 months, you fail to leave US.However, due to an emergency in the 13th Month, you are forced to travel to Kenya, will you be allowed to travel? Justify your answer. Based on your two responses above, a) What is a travel document? b) What is an entry facilitation document? If I'm in the US, I don't need a visa to exit US to travel to Kenya but can you exit US with your expired passport which has a valid US visa? Listen to what miguna says in the video I have posted above in Post #653. The travel document miguna wants is not a kenyan passport or a visa. He says its a letter to be made and printed hapo immigration desk.
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Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:jgithige wrote:hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:And just like that Miguna Miguna becomes more famous.
No airline can take a rowdy passenger. None. Kenya is about to get that US to Kenya direct flight.
Saa zingine you have to wonder what type of thinking goes on with gov't officials.
Sending goons into the airport without clearance to push a passenger into a plane is the height of sillyness.
If Miguna refuses to go, then what?
By the way, the fella is a Kenyan watu wapende wasipende. Wapost wazua wasipost. Even if you take a piece of paper called a passport. He's still a Kenyan. Get used to it.
Total waste of time when Kenyans have bigger issues to deal with. Like fake honey. No airport can allow an international traveler to pass a point of entry without a passport. This is not a fish market. Miguna would have submitted his Canadian passport which is what he used to travel and ride direct to Nyayo hse for his kenyan passport. JKIA has just passed a test. They've proved to FAA that they can not be intimidated by a bully. Why can't the gaarment use his confiscated Ke PP? Don't they have it Because it was invalidated and destroyed/perforated as it had been acquired illegally. Question if you have a Kenyan ID forget even the passport shouldn't you be allowed into Kenya? In some youtube video one can see Miguna flash out an ID for Kenya @jgithige first issue is that Miguna is holding a Kenyan national ID illegally. Under the old constitution he was supposed to hand in all documents that identify him as Kenyan as soon as he acquired Canadian citizenship. Secondly the Kenyan national ID cannot be used as a travel document except within the EAC excluding Tanzania and Burundi. If he was clever he would have flown from Dubai to Uganda using his Canadian passport and enter Kenya from Uganda using is illegally held National ID. The first before your first, The Judge order ID to issue Miguna with travel docs and facilitate his entry into Kenya...What's your understanding of that order? A visa issued on his Canadian passport is a valid document A visa is not a travel document but a travel facilitation document. ID were required to ISSUE travel docs and FACILITATE his entry back to Kenya Eeh a visa is not a travel document? Present your valid visa in your expired passport to any immigration and report back here Go to JKIA with your passport without a canadian visa and tell us if you leave Kenya. Just for your lazy eye A visa (from the Latin charta visa, meaning "paper which has been seen")[1] is a conditional authorization granted by a country to a foreigner, allowing them to enter, remain within, or to leave that country. Visas typically include limits on the duration of the foreigner's stay, territory within the country they may enter, the dates they may enter, the number of permitted visits or an individual's right to work in the country in question. Don't disappiont me, at this rate you will argue yellow fever certificate is a travel document. Assume you have a one year visa into the US and the following two scenerios 1. After 7 months, your passport expires and you were due to travel to Kenya in the 8 months. Will you be able to travel without renewing your passport?Justify your answer The US will not issue a visa if your passport is to expire in duration of your travel. You will have to renew before expiration.2. After 12 months, you fail to leave US.However, due to an emergency in the 13th Month, you are forced to travel to Kenya, will you be allowed to travel? Justify your answer. No. You are an undocumented immigrant with an invalid passport (expired). You can be deported but a transit visa is issued. I dont even think an expired passport is prove of citizenshipBased on your two responses above, a) What is a travel document? A Passport, a visa,b) What is an entry facilitation document? A plane ticket, and the yellow fever cardIf I'm in the US, I don't need a visa to exit US to travel to Kenya but can you exit US with your expired passport which has a valid US visa? You cannot leave the US without a valid passport unless you are being deported. You need a visa if you are not travelling using a Kenyan passport further more, depending on what route you will be flying using, you may need additional transit visas. Try Britain. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1 wrote:I wonder if Jubilee will follow the law and follow court orders. Even the new and improved court orders.
oh I'm just kidding. I'm still waiting for laptops.
Inaitwa serekal ya mabavu. Then pretend you are following a law that doesn't exist. Of course they will comply with the new court order and follow the law and release him from police custody. Then he will be required to walk to the immigration desk and get clearance to enter the country where he will need to present a travel document as per the law.
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murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:jgithige wrote:hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:And just like that Miguna Miguna becomes more famous.
No airline can take a rowdy passenger. None. Kenya is about to get that US to Kenya direct flight.
Saa zingine you have to wonder what type of thinking goes on with gov't officials.
Sending goons into the airport without clearance to push a passenger into a plane is the height of sillyness.
If Miguna refuses to go, then what?
By the way, the fella is a Kenyan watu wapende wasipende. Wapost wazua wasipost. Even if you take a piece of paper called a passport. He's still a Kenyan. Get used to it.
Total waste of time when Kenyans have bigger issues to deal with. Like fake honey. No airport can allow an international traveler to pass a point of entry without a passport. This is not a fish market. Miguna would have submitted his Canadian passport which is what he used to travel and ride direct to Nyayo hse for his kenyan passport. JKIA has just passed a test. They've proved to FAA that they can not be intimidated by a bully. Why can't the gaarment use his confiscated Ke PP? Don't they have it Because it was invalidated and destroyed/perforated as it had been acquired illegally. Question if you have a Kenyan ID forget even the passport shouldn't you be allowed into Kenya? In some youtube video one can see Miguna flash out an ID for Kenya @jgithige first issue is that Miguna is holding a Kenyan national ID illegally. Under the old constitution he was supposed to hand in all documents that identify him as Kenyan as soon as he acquired Canadian citizenship. Secondly the Kenyan national ID cannot be used as a travel document except within the EAC excluding Tanzania and Burundi. If he was clever he would have flown from Dubai to Uganda using his Canadian passport and enter Kenya from Uganda using is illegally held National ID. The first before your first, The Judge order ID to issue Miguna with travel docs and facilitate his entry into Kenya...What's your understanding of that order? A visa issued on his Canadian passport is a valid document A visa is not a travel document but a travel facilitation document. ID were required to ISSUE travel docs and FACILITATE his entry back to Kenya Eeh a visa is not a travel document? Present your valid visa in your expired passport to any immigration and report back here Go to JKIA with your passport without a canadian visa and tell us if you leave Kenya. Just for your lazy eye A visa (from the Latin charta visa, meaning "paper which has been seen")[1] is a conditional authorization granted by a country to a foreigner, allowing them to enter, remain within, or to leave that country. Visas typically include limits on the duration of the foreigner's stay, territory within the country they may enter, the dates they may enter, the number of permitted visits or an individual's right to work in the country in question. Don't disappiont me, at this rate you will argue yellow fever certificate is a travel document. Assume you have a one year visa into the US and the following two scenerios 1. After 7 months, your passport expires and you were due to travel to Kenya in the 8 months. Will you be able to travel without renewing your passport?Justify your answer The US will not issue a visa if your passport is to expire in duration of your travel. You will have to renew before expiration.2. After 12 months, you fail to leave US.However, due to an emergency in the 13th Month, you are forced to travel to Kenya, will you be allowed to travel? Justify your answer. No. You are an undocumented immigrant with an invalid passport (expired). You can be deported but a transit visa is issued. I dont even think an expired passport is prove of citizenshipBased on your two responses above, a) What is a travel document? A Passport, a visa,b) What is an entry facilitation document? A plane ticket, and the yellow fever cardIf I'm in the US, I don't need a visa to exit US to travel to Kenya but can you exit US with your expired passport which has a valid US visa? You cannot leave the US without a valid passport unless you are being deported. You need a visa if you are not travelling using a Kenyan passport further more, depending on what route you will be flying using, you may need additional transit visas. Try Britain. Murchr stop lying it's only 5pm Ati you can't leave the US without a Kenyan passport. Why do you like lying this much? My fren, don't lie too much. I can give you proof of someone who left with pieces of paper stamped by the KE gov't. It's called a travel document. Not a passport. Other's call it a temporary passport. It is not the immigration department that matters when you are leaving. It's the airline. The airline will confirm with the embassy if the pieces of paper are valid. You will then board and come back to Kenya. When you come back to Kenya the immigration department will take your pieces of paper from you. Why do you like lying to Kenyans soooo much? You know the internet never forgets liars. And yes, hardwood mr. world travelor it is a piece of paper. Again learn to answer the very direct questions you have been asked by Swenani. Not lying in public. I have no idea who you are pleasing but it surely not God. The courts have issued orders that he be returned. Just stamp that piece of paper and get it over with. And by the way, the person getting that piece of paper doesn't have to sign anywhere. Aii boss, banana republics are made as you are watching. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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