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obiero
#641 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:34:39 PM
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KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6 Actual 22.3 (-7.6%)
SCBK 15.8 Actual 14.3
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3 (-3.9%)
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-37.5%)
HFCK 1.5

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Pesa Nane
#642 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:47:43 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:

KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6 Actual 22.3 (+8.25%)
SCBK 15.8 Actual PBT 14.3 (-9.5%)
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3 (-3.9%)
COOP 12.7 Actual PBT 10.9 (-14.2%)
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.1%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-31.6%)
HFCK 1.5


Other Banks not rated by @obiero

NIC Actual PBT 6.2
DTB Actual PBT 8.5



NOTES: We are calculating %age deviation from @obiero's estimates.
*Where actual is lower than estimate, naturally a -ve
*Where actual is higher than estimate, naturally a +ve
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Pesa Nane
#643 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 12:41:59 PM
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And finally the Jury is OUT. What is your say?

Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:

KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6 Actual 22.3 (+8.25%)
SCBK 15.8 Actual PBT 14.3 (-9.5%)
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3 (-3.9%)
COOP 12.7 Actual PBT 10.9 (-14.2%)
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.1%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-31.6%)
HFCK 1.5 Actual PBT 1.4 (-6.7%)


Other Banks not rated by @obiero

NIC Actual PBT 6.2
DTB Actual PBT 8.5


NOTES: We are calculating %age deviation from @obiero's estimates.
*Where actual is lower than estimate, naturally a -ve
*Where actual is higher than estimate, naturally a +ve
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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obiero
#644 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2015 9:36:22 PM
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KQ FY 2014, figures in B
Revenue 115.1

Direct costs (81)

Fleet and overhead costs (35.2)

Profit/Loss before tax (6.4)

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#645 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2015 10:15:56 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
And finally the Jury is OUT. What is your say?

Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:

KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6 Actual 22.3 (+8.25%)
SCBK 15.8 Actual PBT 14.3 (-9.5%)
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3 (-3.9%)
COOP 12.7 Actual PBT 10.9 (-14.2%)
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.1%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-31.6%)
HFCK 1.5 Actual PBT 1.4 (-6.7%)


Other Banks not rated by @obiero

NIC Actual PBT 6.2
DTB Actual PBT 8.5


NOTES: We are calculating %age deviation from @obiero's estimates.
*Where actual is lower than estimate, naturally a -ve
*Where actual is higher than estimate, naturally a +ve

Good key explained it well @8money.
Its (-) 5.1 B against (+) 1.7 B = - 3.4 B by considering one off retirement costs for Nbk and coop...the (-) comes to less than a B. Factoring in the early time he,@Obiero gave the estimate and much actions that could have occured...i give him a clean grade A 80%.
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VituVingiSana
#646 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:03:56 AM
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obiero wrote:
KQ FY 2014, figures in B
Revenue 115.1

Direct costs (81)

Fleet and overhead costs (35.2)

Profit/Loss before tax (6.4)


KQ had a 12.5bn Loss Before Tax for 1H 2014-15.
Where did the turnaround 'profit' of 6bn in 2H come from?

http://www.businessdaily.../-/f7fxtez/-/index.html

Kenya Airways has reported an after-tax loss of Sh10.5 billion for the half year to September 30 — Sh12.5 billion - before an income tax credit
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#647 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 5:41:04 AM
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Gatheuzi
#648 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:08:03 AM
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@Obiero, I will give a B+. Kudos on banks results forecasts.

When can we expect Qtr1 2015 numbers?
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#649 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:49:50 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ FY 2014, figures in B
Revenue 115.1

Direct costs (81)

Fleet and overhead costs (35.2)

Profit/Loss before tax (6.4)


KQ had a 12.5bn Loss Before Tax for 1H 2014-15.
Where did the turnaround 'profit' of 6bn in 2H come from?

http://www.businessdaily.../-/f7fxtez/-/index.html

Kenya Airways has reported an after-tax loss of Sh10.5 billion for the half year to September 30 — Sh12.5 billion - before an income tax credit

Times are hard, figures have to be cooked. Next year I'm expecting a good profit, cooked or otherwise.
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obiero
#650 Posted : Tuesday, April 07, 2015 8:11:02 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
@Obiero, I will give a B+. Kudos on banks results forecasts.

When can we expect Qtr1 2015 numbers?

@boris @gatheuzi applause received.. :) qtr 1 results shall be served in good time, there is trouble in most banks whereby deposits are thinning out.. no Greece-like bank runs expected for the majors, but smaller banks may fold up starting with ECB, GTB

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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VituVingiSana
#651 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 2:45:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
@Obiero, I will give a B+. Kudos on banks results forecasts.

When can we expect Qtr1 2015 numbers?

@boris @gatheuzi applause received.. :) qtr 1 results shall be served in good time, there is trouble in most banks whereby deposits are thinning out.. no Greece-like bank runs expected for the majors, but smaller banks may fold up starting with ECB, GTB

ECB has Mwalimu SACCO to back it up. And the deposits may leave Coop for ECB.
GTB has the backing of much larger GTB Nigeria but will they continue taking the losses or close up shop?

I would pick Middle East Bank and Dubai Bank as being in trouble.
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obiero
#652 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:54:00 PM
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Q1 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 6.5
EQTY 6.2
SCBK 4.4
COOP 3.9
BBK 3.6
DTB 2.76
CFC 2.6
NIC 1.86
NBK 0.5
HFCK 0.35

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Mainat
#653 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:09:12 AM
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I doubt the below. Capital for sure but not liquidity. It is not borne out by the rates being offered for deposits which if anything are falling

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
@Obiero, I will give a B+. Kudos on banks results forecasts.

When can we expect Qtr1 2015 numbers?

@boris @gatheuzi applause received.. :) qtr 1 results shall be served in good time, there is trouble in most banks whereby deposits are thinning out.. no Greece-like bank runs expected for the majors, but smaller banks may fold up starting with ECB, GTB

Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Ericsson
#654 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 1:19:35 PM
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@Obiero;
For equity bank I beg to differ.I expect Q1 PBT at 5.9.
Coop will report almost flat as compared to last year.
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obiero
#655 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 6:48:05 PM
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the biggest one will speak, 6+1 or 8-1.. :)

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obiero
#656 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 6:50:15 PM
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@ericsson you may be right.. lets wait and see whether it will be.. but I think im right

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Ericsson
#657 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:08:42 PM
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Equity Bank announcing Q1 results tomorrow
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#658 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:18:39 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Equity Bank announcing Q1 results tomorrow

they are quick when things are good
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#659 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:54:51 PM
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No reaction yet from the stock price...
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Ericsson
#660 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:45:28 PM
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Coop bank has announced 2015 Q1 results.
profit before tax is at ksh.4.502bn and profit after tax at ksh.3.17bn
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