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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I agree with Kanjama 100%....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Shak wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Some 2 governors have also been charged in court but still continuing with their duties. Who will make them leave?
Of corruption? Who else? Ojamoong .... Migori 1. My understanding of the ruling is that it applies to public and state officers charged with any criminal offence not just corruption. Migori 1 had a corruption case too. Kes 2b. Involved wiring money to his kids in Australia The Sharon case shouldn't be used to bar him from office.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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limanika wrote:hardwood wrote:Waititi was only barred from going to the county offices, not performing his functions as county governor. Basically he can run the county from his private offices or home or wherever he deems fit. He can even be parking outside the county offices gate and be signing all the documents and hold meetings from there. As I said earlier sonko has been holding cabinet meetings in his machakos home which is legal. The term 'office' in this case does not refer to a physical place. It refers to the 'functions' that go with the office. You are right that Sonko was 'running' Nairobi from Mua hills since it's not about the physical place. The lawyers agree with me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kanjama: Court asked Waititu to keep away from the ‘offices’, did not take away the ‘office’ from him
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Waititu and his wife have a bunch of rich thieves for lawyers and of course some tangatanga friends with deep pockets yet wamelala ndani for a third day. Poor couple.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:Did the court say that Waititu should step aside or just that he should not be allowed back in his office? My guess is, he can operate from Thika as this does not interfere in anyway with policy dispensation. The ruling effectively meant that he should cease exercising powers of the office of county governor until case is heard and determined. Sadly, I note the County Government Act 2012 did not contemplate this scenario. Due to the weak legislation this ruling may be quashed by either Court of Appeal or SC. Actually we are going too far in interpretation. The ruling by Mumbi was specifically on the legality of the constitutionality of keeping state officials in their place of work on moral issues such as corruption. She ruled that particular section of the act was unconstitutional. As we stand any law that violates this principle is by fact unconstitutional. She wasn't ruling on whether governors were to be called governors when charged. She ruled on a constitutional issue. To over turn that ruling you have to go to the Court of Appeal and I'm sure they will not touch that ruling. Ipso facto. The problem are all these ACTS of Mpigs that have effectively been watering down the constitution. As to whether Waititu is still governor etc, that's now for the Mpigs to fix with an act of gov't. Otherwise it is now unconstitutional for a conman to continue RUINING counties on the basis of a flawed law that Mpigs have been using to remain in power.I think that is what the Waititu judge said over and over again. Lawyers are free to interpret. That's how they make their money. By obfuscating and pontificating. Are you already judging him yet he has not been heard? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Njunge wrote:Waititu and his wife have a bunch of rich thieves for lawyers and of course some tangatanga friends with deep pockets yet wamelala ndani for a third day. Poor couple. When you are charged with corruption its bad PR to pay 15m + 4m bail cash, coz everyone will believe that its true that you stole millions. Therefore the good thing to do is lala dani for a day or 2 as you pretend to look for bail cash.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:Did the court say that Waititu should step aside or just that he should not be allowed back in his office? My guess is, he can operate from Thika as this does not interfere in anyway with policy dispensation. The ruling effectively meant that he should cease exercising powers of the office of county governor until case is heard and determined. Sadly, I note the County Government Act 2012 did not contemplate this scenario. Due to the weak legislation this ruling may be quashed by either Court of Appeal or SC. Actually we are going too far in interpretation. The ruling by Mumbi was specifically on the legality of the constitutionality of keeping state officials in their place of work on moral issues such as corruption. She ruled that particular section of the act was unconstitutional. As we stand any law that violates this principle is by fact unconstitutional. She wasn't ruling on whether governors were to be called governors when charged. She ruled on a constitutional issue. To over turn that ruling you have to go to the Court of Appeal and I'm sure they will not touch that ruling. Ipso facto. The problem are all these ACTS of Mpigs that have effectively been watering down the constitution. As to whether Waititu is still governor etc, that's now for the Mpigs to fix with an act of gov't. Otherwise it is now unconstitutional for a conman to continue RUINING counties on the basis of a flawed law that Mpigs have been using to remain in power.I think that is what the Waititu judge said over and over again. Lawyers are free to interpret. That's how they make their money. By obfuscating and pontificating. Are you already judging him yet he has not been heard? He is a kirimino no matter what the courts decide. Akashas were presumed innocent in Kenya for many years yet we all knew they were up to no good Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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