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How did you make your first Kes million?
Wororo
#321 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 2:49:32 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!


I suppose this is what you were referring to...
the deal
#322 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:12:26 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
Wororo wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!


I suppose this is what you were referring to...

Very true...started a tech company 2 years ago...it's worth millions now...far superior returns than the NSE...
Wororo
#323 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:18:47 PM
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Joined: 1/30/2011
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the deal wrote:
Wororo wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!


I suppose this is what you were referring to...

Very true...started a tech company 2 years ago...it's worth millions now...far superior returns than the NSE...


@thedeal, very encouraging indeed...

Hope to realize the success too in the near future...

Also realized that there are infinite opportunities in the tech space ...

;)
guru me
#324 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:13:33 PM
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Joined: 6/27/2011
Posts: 63
Was fortunate enough to land a relatively well paying job (40k pm back in 2004) straight out of campus. Bought 2 plots through my dads sacco for a 100k each - gave one to my dad for being a stand up guy and kept the other. Was quite frugal - lived at home and never bought a car even as peers did.

Dabbled in NSE and won some and lost some - in long run broke even.

Joined Big 4 - in Kenya and was fortunate to land a Big 4 job in the Islands paying roughly 500k tax free when I was 27. Was quite frugal and aggressive at saving. Bought more land. After two years in Islands, financial crisis hit and relocated to kenya with roughly 5 m in Cash and dreams of building an empire.

Found a clearing and forwarding fella who owned a transportation biz with 3 prime movers - said he was consolidating shipments for Thika road imports and was required to move to Dubai so was selling trucks and guaranteeing at least 3 containers a week per truck. Math was amazing – worked out to roughly 600k gross per week and a payback period of less than 12 months based on projections. Did as much due diligence as I could at the time and signed agreements with him in front of lawyers. Got in only to realise the chap was full of BS. Barely a container a week and even then was not paying when he did deliver.

Contemplated suing him for breach of agreements but learnt that the fella was broke so was not worth the litigation cost. After a year of trying to make it work, gave up and sold trucks at a loss - probably lost 1.5 m over the time.Went back into employment and decided to focus on real estate.
Have several rental properties now which provide decent monthly income and happy with direction.

Lessons learnt - transport biz is not for faint hearted. Everyone is out to get you. Owner is always last to get paid after employees, agents, police, government etc- yet he takes all the risks.

Real estate has been good to me- especially rental properties. Have both income and capital gains. Only downside is unlike shares limited liquidity should I want to cash out.

In business, you will get taken no matter how much DD u do. So never invest in an operational business, you are not willing to lose significantly on - and chalk it up to learning.

winmak
#325 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:41:54 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
guru me wrote:
Was fortunate enough to land a relatively well paying job (40k pm back in 2004) straight out of campus. Bought 2 plots through my dads sacco for a 100k each - gave one to my dad for being a stand up guy and kept the other. Was quite frugal - lived at home and never bought a car even as peers did.

Dabbled in NSE and won some and lost some - in long run broke even.

Joined Big 4 - in Kenya and was fortunate to land a Big 4 job in the Islands paying roughly 500k tax free when I was 27. Was quite frugal and aggressive at saving. Bought more land. After two years in Islands, financial crisis hit and relocated to kenya with roughly 5 m in Cash and dreams of building an empire.

Found a clearing and forwarding fella who owned a transportation biz with 3 prime movers - said he was consolidating shipments for Thika road imports and was required to move to Dubai so was selling trucks and guaranteeing at least 3 containers a week per truck. Math was amazing – worked out to roughly 600k gross per week and a payback period of less than 12 months based on projections. Did as much due diligence as I could at the time and signed agreements with him in front of lawyers. Got in only to realise the chap was full of BS. Barely a container a week and even then was not paying when he did deliver.

Contemplated suing him for breach of agreements but learnt that the fella was broke so was not worth the litigation cost. After a year of trying to make it work, gave up and sold trucks at a loss - probably lost 1.5 m over the time.Went back into employment and decided to focus on real estate.
Have several rental properties now which provide decent monthly income and happy with direction.

Lessons learnt - transport biz is not for faint hearted. Everyone is out to get you. Owner is always last to get paid after employees, agents, police, government etc- yet he takes all the risks.

Real estate has been good to me- especially rental properties. Have both income and capital gains. Only downside is unlike shares limited liquidity should I want to cash out.

In business, you will get taken no matter how much DD u do. So never invest in an operational business, you are not willing to lose significantly on - and chalk it up to learning.


Wow... quite a journey
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
watesh
#326 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:22:22 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!

The margins in this business are amazing and expansion worldwide is much easier
kitabu_chako
#327 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:53:51 AM
Rank: Hello

Joined: 8/29/2018
Posts: 3
Location: Kuwait
net worth: 5m usd and growing.

old job: regular on Wazua, tracking the NSE 24/7.

money from: technology business

age: below 40

prediction: we'll have a tech USD billionaire from 254 by 2030.


tony stark
#328 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:52:34 AM
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Joined: 7/8/2008
Posts: 947
kitabu_chako wrote:
net worth: 5m usd and growing.

old job: regular on Wazua, tracking the NSE 24/7.

money from: technology business

age: below 40

prediction: we'll have a tech USD billionaire from 254 by 2030.




@Kitabu_chako. Welcome to Wazua.

Just as an introduction, Wazua hatupendi ujinga. Predictions straight out of your a$$ are not good.
Your prediction is very wrong. Here is why
Kenya GDP in 2030 is estimated to be between 200-250 billion dollars. Up from 75 billion now.

When you look at other countries the top richest people (0.01% of the population)own between 0.5% of the total economy in portugal to 2.7% of the economy in Colombia.

Let's say in Kenya its higher than the highest at 3%. Basically the super rich(0.01%) of the population will own 7.5Billion dollars). This combined population of the super rich will be 6000-10000 people based of the population estimates will own 7.5 Billion I dont see how one of them will have a whooping 1 billion dollars to himself.

Your prediction is highly unlikely but if you have some facts or you can elaborate a little more we will highly appreciate to get some insight.

Welcome to Wazua na usome Kitabu! Prrriss!
snifadog
#329 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:47:32 AM
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Joined: 6/6/2016
Posts: 167
Location: Nairobi
watesh wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!

The margins in this business are amazing and expansion worldwide is much easier


The barrier to entry is very low as well...what is this tech business? if you don't have a patent or competitive advantage you are wasting your time. Copy cats will pop up faster than you imagine
the deal
#330 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:50:44 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
snifadog wrote:
watesh wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
People are making lots of money in technology based businesses. That is likely where the next millionaires and billionaires will come from. The foreigners have realized this and there are now a lot of Americans and Europeans doing technology businesses here in Kenya looking to make cash. Usiachwe nyuma!

The margins in this business are amazing and expansion worldwide is much easier


The barrier to entry is very low as well...what is this tech business? if you don't have a patent or competitive advantage you are wasting your time. Copy cats will pop up faster than you imagine


If thats your thinking then you will not start or succeed in business...if you have succeeded so far then you are lucky

1. Never mind copy cats...nobody succeeds by copying another...if they beat you with your idea then you failed to implement it...


2. Many big businesses today never started with patents or have no patents!

3. There are a lot of things which drive a business forward i.e customer service
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