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guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Good. Now we are getting somewhere.
So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.
Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong? About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there? About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith. On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters? On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters? On the first question, refer to post #558On the second question, yes. Muslim is the one who submits to and accepts God and must demonstrate this by worshiping God alone, following his commands. Polytheist is one joins gods with God. An example of a polytheist like worshiping a man. Combining the two questions, which is Sunni, which is Shia, which are you, which, in your opinion, is @Guru, which is ISIS and which are those being killed? @mukiri you're just repeating questions. Which what and what... and am I? I've already replied in above posts. My opinion regarding @guru? You ask her, there you're trying to clash people. Which is ISIS and who is being killed? How do I know? Your guess is as good as mine. In short, these grouping you're enumerating have been created by so-called Muslim experts, the enemies of Islam, for political reasons, to cause division. You'll never find any groupings in Quran and Hadiths the teachings of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Quran says don't create sects. Hadiths say don't create sects. So the groupings and sects is not Islam. Going forward, please ask me any question in Islam. Politics, achia @guru, she can deal with you on that. NOTE: please refer to my post #288 about my stand ISIS. I think you have an inkling to what I'm all about here. I think it's why you are hurling 'funny' words at me, trying to avoid the inevitable. However, if you are as un-knowledgable (I have avoided using the word foolish) as you make out to be, I will elucidate. You could have missed crucial lessons in a Madrassa, as you grew up a Christian. It's foolhardy to keep repeating that Islam is of one people. Especially in a thread about Muslims killing other Muslims. I was not about causing any division between you and your sister. It's already there. @Guru has clearly told you the difference between Sunnis and Shiites (I'm surprised you didn't know). She even stated to be a Sunni and expressed disgust at being associated with the later. She's a hardliner who doesn't mince her words. You, on the other hand, are all goody-goody. A moderate who's preaching togetherness of Muslims. By condemning the killings of Shiates by Sunnis, you are condemning what @Guru is affiliated to. If that in itself is not division,then I don't know what is. Stop deluding yourself. Even the writer of your Holy Book had alot to say about war. Islam is not about peace, love, harmony and all those fancy feelings but about total domination. You must have missed the point from whomever converted you. Life is about here and now. To think that you'll achieve peace and a sense of tranquillity when the whole world is Islam, when Islamic states themselves are at perpetual war; is as false as thinking that Kenya will be all goody-goody under ODM when they can't even hold peaceful ODM elections. A Shiite is not a Muslim! What about that can't you understand? So @Alph is right... The only Muslims are 1.6 Billion Sunnis who are united! Hasn't it crossed your mind, that he himself could not be Sunni? And could be the reason he's keeping it under wraps
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@Alphadoti, this IS fighter and preacher amesema uwache fitina! "There is no Jihad of the soul" 4:35  This video gives insight as to how some religious leaders in Muslim worship centres could be expected by some or plain used for recruiting and/or training terrorists for the one and only Jihad they believe in.
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:mpobiz wrote:And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza.
Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Sitting ducks in open space, so their advances have significantly been reduced since the airstrikes. They are now hiding amongst residents in the towns. Meanwhile, the German government has announced this evening it would send anti-tank missiles and machine guns to Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq. The Defense Ministry said the arms, as well as protective gear and communications equipment, would be enough to supply 4,000 Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. The delivery will take place over three shipments to start at the end of September. It will include 8,000 German-made G36 assault rifles and ammunition, 30 MILAN anti-tank systems, and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. Link - http://www.dw.de/germany...WITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss In war its all about heart rather than weapons! Just like before Islamic State will capture all those weapons and finally crush those US ass licking Kurds! IS should be given a Nobel prize for uniting the middle east and beyond!! It will soon be outnumbered and outgunned.
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ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:mpobiz wrote:And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza.
Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Sitting ducks in open space, so their advances have significantly been reduced since the airstrikes. They are now hiding amongst residents in the towns. Meanwhile, the German government has announced this evening it would send anti-tank missiles and machine guns to Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq. The Defense Ministry said the arms, as well as protective gear and communications equipment, would be enough to supply 4,000 Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. The delivery will take place over three shipments to start at the end of September. It will include 8,000 German-made G36 assault rifles and ammunition, 30 MILAN anti-tank systems, and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. Link - http://www.dw.de/germany...WITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss In war its all about heart rather than weapons! Just like before Islamic State will capture all those weapons and finally crush those US ass licking Kurds! IS should be given a Nobel prize for uniting the middle east and beyond!! It will soon be outnumbered and outgunned. But Muhammad already told them to expect to be outgunned and outnumbered by far so that is really no surprise! That will not change the outcome!  What amazes me is how Christians love Jews who hate Christ more than any other religion on earth... Madness i tell you! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Good. Now we are getting somewhere.
So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.
Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong? About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there? About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith. On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters? On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters? On the first question, refer to post #558On the second question, yes. Muslim is the one who submits to and accepts God and must demonstrate this by worshiping God alone, following his commands. Polytheist is one joins gods with God. An example of a polytheist like worshiping a man. Combining the two questions, which is Sunni, which is Shia, which are you, which, in your opinion, is @Guru, which is ISIS and which are those being killed? @mukiri you're just repeating questions. Which what and what... and am I? I've already replied in above posts. My opinion regarding @guru? You ask her, there you're trying to clash people. Which is ISIS and who is being killed? How do I know? Your guess is as good as mine. In short, these grouping you're enumerating have been created by so-called Muslim experts, the enemies of Islam, for political reasons, to cause division. You'll never find any groupings in Quran and Hadiths the teachings of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Quran says don't create sects. Hadiths say don't create sects. So the groupings and sects is not Islam. Going forward, please ask me any question in Islam. Politics, achia @guru, she can deal with you on that. NOTE: please refer to my post #288 about my stand ISIS. I think you have an inkling to what I'm all about here. I think it's why you are hurling 'funny' words at me, trying to avoid the inevitable. However, if you are as un-knowledgable (I have avoided using the word foolish) as you make out to be, I will elucidate. You could have missed crucial lessons in a Madrassa, as you grew up a Christian. It's foolhardy to keep repeating that Islam is of one people. Especially in a thread about Muslims killing other Muslims. I was not about causing any division between you and your sister. It's already there. @Guru has clearly told you the difference between Sunnis and Shiites (I'm surprised you didn't know). She even stated to be a Sunni and expressed disgust at being associated with the later. She's a hardliner who doesn't mince her words. You, on the other hand, are all goody-goody. A moderate who's preaching togetherness of Muslims. By condemning the killings of Shiates by Sunnis, you are condemning what @Guru is affiliated to. If that in itself is not division,then I don't know what is. Stop deluding yourself. Even the writer of your Holy Book had alot to say about war. Islam is not about peace, love, harmony and all those fancy feelings but about total domination. You must have missed the point from whomever converted you. Life is about here and now. To think that you'll achieve peace and a sense of tranquillity when the whole world is Islam, when Islamic states themselves are at perpetual war; is as false as thinking that Kenya will be all goody-goody under ODM when they can't even hold peaceful ODM elections. A Shiite is not a Muslim! What about that can't you understand? So @Alph is right... The only Muslims are 1.6 Billion Sunnis who are united! Hasn't it crossed your mind, that he himself could not be Sunni? And could be the reason he's keeping it under wraps @Alph is Sunni.. Otherwise he is not Muslim! Simple.. My interactions with him show me he is Sunni! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:mpobiz wrote:And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza.
Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Sitting ducks in open space, so their advances have significantly been reduced since the airstrikes. They are now hiding amongst residents in the towns. Meanwhile, the German government has announced this evening it would send anti-tank missiles and machine guns to Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq. The Defense Ministry said the arms, as well as protective gear and communications equipment, would be enough to supply 4,000 Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. The delivery will take place over three shipments to start at the end of September. It will include 8,000 German-made G36 assault rifles and ammunition, 30 MILAN anti-tank systems, and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. Link - http://www.dw.de/germany...WITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss In war its all about heart rather than weapons! Just like before Islamic State will capture all those weapons and finally crush those US ass licking Kurds! IS should be given a Nobel prize for uniting the middle east and beyond!! It will soon be outnumbered and outgunned. But Muhammad already told them to expect to be outgunned and outnumbered by far so that is really no surprise! That will not change the outcome! What amazes me is how Christians love Jews who hate Christ more than any other religion on earth... Madness i tell you! Christianity also has it's nut jobs but "you guys" take the trophy on that Jews are men like all other men, they can believe what they want, it's free will but no special favors for being Jewish. Sooo..are you saying you believe either of the following: 1. Jesus Christ will be the one to come in time help these soon to be deceased IS characters 2. IS is fighting a war they know they will lose? 3. IS will win this ongoing war despite being outnumbered and outgunned?
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
And I repeat Christ is the Messiah in Islam... And he is a "son" like Adam and the angels written in your Bible! He is not begotten as your perverted interpretations tell you! Looks like you flushed all your wisdom down a toilet! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:mpobiz wrote:And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza.
Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Sitting ducks in open space, so their advances have significantly been reduced since the airstrikes. They are now hiding amongst residents in the towns. Meanwhile, the German government has announced this evening it would send anti-tank missiles and machine guns to Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq. The Defense Ministry said the arms, as well as protective gear and communications equipment, would be enough to supply 4,000 Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. The delivery will take place over three shipments to start at the end of September. It will include 8,000 German-made G36 assault rifles and ammunition, 30 MILAN anti-tank systems, and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. Link - http://www.dw.de/germany...WITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss In war its all about heart rather than weapons! Just like before Islamic State will capture all those weapons and finally crush those US ass licking Kurds! IS should be given a Nobel prize for uniting the middle east and beyond!! It will soon be outnumbered and outgunned. But Muhammad already told them to expect to be outgunned and outnumbered by far so that is really no surprise! That will not change the outcome! What amazes me is how Christians love Jews who hate Christ more than any other religion on earth... Madness i tell you! Christianity also has it's nut jobs but "you guys" take the trophy on that Jews are men like all other men, they can believe what they want, it's free will but no special favors for being Jewish. Sooo..are you saying you believe either of the following: 1. Jesus Christ will be the one to come in time help these soon to be deceased IS characters 2. IS is fighting a war they know they will lose? 3. IS will win this ongoing war despite being outnumbered and outgunned? We believe IS will fight the homosexual hugging, abortionist, tyrannical atheists despite being outgunned until Christ comes to their aid... Muhammad said a third of IS would be slaughtered trying to fight these... Another third would flee and the final third would prevail! But Muhammad said it is only Christ who will be able to defeat the Antichrist! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
And I repeat Christ is the Messiah in Islam... And he is a "son" like Adam and the angels written in your Bible! He is not begotten as your perverted interpretations tell you! Looks like you flushed all your wisdom down a toilet! The Bible says He is not a "son" like Adam or the angels.Colossians 1:13-20.The perverted interpretations reflect on you and your claims. The Messiah according to the Qur'an is not the Son of God and neither was He crucified.Those are teachings of Muhammad which are not in the Bible and it is states where they come from. What do you think I don't understand? The facts or your claims?
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
And I repeat Christ is the Messiah in Islam... And he is a "son" like Adam and the angels written in your Bible! He is not begotten as your perverted interpretations tell you! Looks like you flushed all your wisdom down a toilet! The Bible says He is not a "son" like Adam or the angels.Colossians 1:13-20.The perverted interpretations reflect on you and your claims. The Messiah according to the Qur'an is not the Son of God and neither was He crucified.Those are teachings of Muhammad which are not in the Bible and it is states where they come from. What do you think I don't understand? The facts or your claims? I can proudly say that Islam does not believe in anything that was written after Jesus departed especially by the pagan Paul and his disciples! Why do you keep on writing son with a capital S like it matters?? Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic do not recognize that! The translations are confusing you too much! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why? Don't you see the violence? The photos? I do.Just a smile and a nod.Perspective. Christ is coming back to an Islamic earth.Convert,pay tax or off with your head!'Enforcers' of the law. Just 2.5% tax of what remains after expense, eh!  This 30% of gross we are being charged is crazy!  Symbols, brother It definitely then will be such a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation on earth before christ returns. Now is the time to prepare for this coming trying time by eating only healthy food that is still as close as possible to its natural state as possibe and having a good rest, the ultimate rest, every weekend. You know, all those things. Its going to be one helluva time!!!! We might find ourselves running - literally - kabisa and I, for one, will stake my head!!!!! Laugh! laugh! laugh! Interesting times. Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
And I repeat Christ is the Messiah in Islam... And he is a "son" like Adam and the angels written in your Bible! He is not begotten as your perverted interpretations tell you! Looks like you flushed all your wisdom down a toilet! The Bible says He is not a "son" like Adam or the angels.Colossians 1:13-20.The perverted interpretations reflect on you and your claims. The Messiah according to the Qur'an is not the Son of God and neither was He crucified.Those are teachings of Muhammad which are not in the Bible and it is states where they come from. What do you think I don't understand? The facts or your claims? We can debate this until the world ends but the fact is you will never believe what i believe and vice versa! Feel free to say your God is three in one and that he begets children like you were told by Paul! Feel free to pray to the Jesus who got hungry and got tired and prayed. Muslims will be free to continue following the all powerful God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob who is one and will never beget a son! The God who created the angels, mankind & the Holy Spirit! Salaam/Shalom! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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So Yahweh is to be obeyed.
I fully agree with the Sunni muslims on this.
So I was reading Leviticus, and as you know, this was centuries before Paul came and 'adulterated' the "pure" religion that mohammed later came to "restore".
I was struck by some interesting stuff I read in Leviticus. This is that book where there is the great prohibition against eating swine, Alphdoti's favourite accusation against apostate christians (which I strangely also agree with).
But I have new items which Alphdoti and Guru might "not be aware of" (but which they are aware of).
In Chapter 4 & 5 & 6 Yaweh speaks and he repeats the phrase "and the priest shall make an atonement for them and it shall be forgiven them".
This is in chapters:
4:20,26,31,35
5:10,13,16,18
6:7
For those Sunni Muslims who follow the "unadulterated Yaweh religion" of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is one and will never beget a son that mohammed came to "restore" take note of the words "atonement" and "forgiven".
What is your opinion concerning these words that Yaweh said not once but many times?
Guru, Alphdoti?
(Sunni Muslims. You know, sunni rhymes with sunny and you guys could have been Sunny Muslims and this "pure" sunni religion could have already conquered the whole world. Too bad it hasn't)
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why? Don't you see the violence? The photos? I do.Just a smile and a nod.Perspective. Christ is coming back to an Islamic earth.Convert,pay tax or off with your head!'Enforcers' of the law. Just 2.5% tax of what remains after expense, eh! This 30% of gross we are being charged is crazy! Symbols, brother It definitely then will be such a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation on earth before christ returns. Now is the time to prepare for this coming trying time by eating only healthy food that is still as close as possible to its natural state as possibe and having a good rest, the ultimate rest, every weekend. You know, all those things. Its going to be one helluva time!!!! We might find ourselves running - literally - kabisa and I, for one, will stake my head!!!!! Laugh! laugh! laugh! Interesting times. Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order "Even as the lessons of challenging decades are examined, the affirmation of America's exceptional nature must be sustained. History offers no respite to countries that set aside their sense of identity in favor of a seemingly less arduous course. But nor does it assure success for the most elevated convictions in the absence of a comprehensive geopolitical strategy." 
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:mpobiz wrote:And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza.
Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Sitting ducks in open space, so their advances have significantly been reduced since the airstrikes. They are now hiding amongst residents in the towns. Meanwhile, the German government has announced this evening it would send anti-tank missiles and machine guns to Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq. The Defense Ministry said the arms, as well as protective gear and communications equipment, would be enough to supply 4,000 Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. The delivery will take place over three shipments to start at the end of September. It will include 8,000 German-made G36 assault rifles and ammunition, 30 MILAN anti-tank systems, and five heavily armored Dingo infantry vehicles. Link - http://www.dw.de/germany...WITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss In war its all about heart rather than weapons! Just like before Islamic State will capture all those weapons and finally crush those US ass licking Kurds! IS should be given a Nobel prize for uniting the middle east and beyond!! It will soon be outnumbered and outgunned. But Muhammad already told them to expect to be outgunned and outnumbered by far so that is really no surprise! That will not change the outcome! What amazes me is how Christians love Jews who hate Christ more than any other religion on earth... Madness i tell you! Christianity also has it's nut jobs but "you guys" take the trophy on that Jews are men like all other men, they can believe what they want, it's free will but no special favors for being Jewish. Sooo..are you saying you believe either of the following: 1. Jesus Christ will be the one to come in time help these soon to be deceased IS characters 2. IS is fighting a war they know they will lose? 3. IS will win this ongoing war despite being outnumbered and outgunned? We believe IS will fight the homosexual hugging, abortionist, tyrannical atheists despite being outgunned until Christ comes to their aid... Muhammad said a third of IS would be slaughtered trying to fight these... Another third would flee and the final third would prevail! But Muhammad said it is only Christ who will be able to defeat the Antichrist! Only God knows the heart of a man. 1. It's oxymoronic to have angels to fight for God on his instruction but use fallible little human devils to do so. 2. What is the point of "Judgement Day" by the Almighty God if Al Bagdadi and his murderous bunch have already "fought" for him? Anyway, this is what Christ told his true follower who tried literally fighting on his behalf, please read and understand it: Matthew 26:53-54 King James Version (KJV)53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?So basically, that Sunni logic, as far as true Christianity is concerned, is BS.
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In the meantime, as I wait for our beloved sunni muslims, I take this 'free' time to mull over this map.  I have a few questions about it but one question at a time is the only fair thing for me to do.
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:
Who can win against your 'facts'?
Proverbs 30:4
Luke 1:32-35
John 17:5
Colossians 1:13-20
None of those verses change the fact that your Bible states that Adam is the son of the most high, the angels are sons of the most high and Jesus is the son of the most high! Son meaning a unique creation of Yahweh!What is it about this that you can't understand? The Bible also states 1 John 2:22. Qur'an 4:171 wrote:
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Qur'an 39:4 wrote:
If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
Qur'an 6:100-101 wrote:
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
And I repeat Christ is the Messiah in Islam... And he is a "son" like Adam and the angels written in your Bible! He is not begotten as your perverted interpretations tell you! Looks like you flushed all your wisdom down a toilet! The Bible says He is not a "son" like Adam or the angels.Colossians 1:13-20.The perverted interpretations reflect on you and your claims. The Messiah according to the Qur'an is not the Son of God and neither was He crucified.Those are teachings of Muhammad which are not in the Bible and it is states where they come from. What do you think I don't understand? The facts or your claims? We can debate this until the world ends but the fact is you will never believe what i believe and vice versa! Feel free to say your God is three in one and that he begets children like you were told by Paul! Feel free to pray to the Jesus who got hungry and got tired and prayed. Muslims will be free to continue following the all powerful God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob who is one and will never beget a son! The God who created the angels, mankind & the Holy Spirit! Salaam/Shalom! Feel free to follow the Great Pedophile.......Feel free to behead innocent earthlings and POWs as you defend that useless god of yours......and the evil west will forever manipulate and blow your skinny arses with glee as the rest of the world watches in amusement. You are an enemy of true Islam! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Muriel wrote:In the meantime, as I wait for our beloved sunni muslims, I take this 'free' time to mull over this map. I have a few questions about it but one question at a time is the only fair thing for me to do. Fighting in Iraq where they have access to vast quantities of weapons and next door backers is very different from fighting in lands where they don't have military grade explosives and no training or expertise on espionage amongst adept hostiles is another matter all together. I welcome record level Shihada numbers. "Paradiso" itakuwa na population explosion
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:In the latest debasing of known human rights, IS militants have abducted several dozen female Izadi Kurds in Iraq and sold them to fellow militants in Syria, the so-called Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) says. At least 27 Izadi women had been sold for around USD 1,000 each by IS terrorists in Iraq only to fellow ISIL terrorists in Syria despite attempts by Syria Arabs and Kurds to buy them so as to secure their freedom.
Actually its more than 300 women sold so far and they are the spoils of war and the Bible is very clear what to do with spoils of war!  @ alphadoti please comment! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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