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If Ouru stays this course of fighting graft, there'll be many bloodied casualties him and Rao included.
The fight back will be intense, dirty and personalised.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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gk wrote:If Ouru stays this course of fighting graft, there'll be many bloodied casualties him and Rao included.
The fight back will be intense, dirty and personalised. The fight-back will not happen. And I will explain why. The taka-taka group doesn't have any ammunition left. If Kinoti and Haji decided to increase the heat, WSR knows he will be finished. The skeletons are too many. My guess is that he hopes Kinoti will slow down. Have you noticed that old WSR supporters have gone quiet ? Duale, Kithure Kindiki. Very few people who matter agree to be associated with WSR. Rigathi in Nyeri, Ndindi in Muranga, Ichungwa in Kiambu. The 3 musketeers know their political careers are over. You may add Waititu but word is that he will not even attempt to defend his seat in 2022. Why not milk WSR before the inevitable happens in 2022. Nobody from Nyandarua and Kirinyaga. Nobody from Nairobi county.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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mpobiz wrote:Shak wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
A word of advice to the tanga-tanga supporters here. BTW I hope some of you are inside the network such that if your guy makes it to statehouse, you stand to benefit with the rest of the thieves and looters.
I have seen his foot soldiers directing their ammo at Kinoti. I doubt any of you have any idea the kind of brotherhood that exists amongst our brothers from the land of miraa. Let me paint a picture here. If there was a police roadblock at Juja and your vehicle is flagged down for speeding, and as the cop approaches your vehicle, your passenger who happens to be a Merian realizes the cop is a fellow Merian, the case is closed and you get away free. The only other community that exhibits such brotherhood is Kaleos.
Need I tell you what attacking Kinoti means with regard to the 6th largest voting bloc in Kenya ?
Kindly, let's not go there. Corruption knows no tribe. What kind of reasoning is this? The VP is not under any investigations. If you know of any.. please tell us. Further more I have not heard any where the DP supporters telling off the DCI. This are your own concoctions. Further more even the president said yesterday that we avoid ethnising corruption or public offices. The DCI office is not njuri ncheke so an attack on his office is not an attack on merus. If you knew how the DCI office works you would know that if there was to be an investigation on the DP maybe a kaleo would be the lead investigator. Let me also give you a small fact/ prophecy , the ordinary gikuyu embu meru aembu voter will vote Rutto 99% come 22. One reason being.. Kenyans love victims of hate. The more you victimize the man, the closer the people come to him Good example waiguru Winning by exhaustive / burnt earth strategy. Propoganda avenues are limitless but human tolerance is limited as well as impact. It works and it will work. Propaganda thrives on it's veracity and denial of chance to poke holes on the alegation made or denial of time to rejuvenate like desert brush on fire. Delayed redemption past intended impact point. Propaganda actually works. To counter propaganda is easier and more enduring by exhaustion thus creating a çonditioned resistive reflex action by constant unsuccessful propaganda machinations eg kimwarrer. Propaganda has always been used and will always be used to tilt and skew public opinion in an elective contest. Ruto is in the house to stay. That's a fact. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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muandiwambeu wrote:mpobiz wrote:Shak wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
A word of advice to the tanga-tanga supporters here. BTW I hope some of you are inside the network such that if your guy makes it to statehouse, you stand to benefit with the rest of the thieves and looters.
I have seen his foot soldiers directing their ammo at Kinoti. I doubt any of you have any idea the kind of brotherhood that exists amongst our brothers from the land of miraa. Let me paint a picture here. If there was a police roadblock at Juja and your vehicle is flagged down for speeding, and as the cop approaches your vehicle, your passenger who happens to be a Merian realizes the cop is a fellow Merian, the case is closed and you get away free. The only other community that exhibits such brotherhood is Kaleos.
Need I tell you what attacking Kinoti means with regard to the 6th largest voting bloc in Kenya ?
Kindly, let's not go there. Corruption knows no tribe. What kind of reasoning is this? The VP is not under any investigations. If you know of any.. please tell us. Further more I have not heard any where the DP supporters telling off the DCI. This are your own concoctions. Further more even the president said yesterday that we avoid ethnising corruption or public offices. The DCI office is not njuri ncheke so an attack on his office is not an attack on merus. If you knew how the DCI office works you would know that if there was to be an investigation on the DP maybe a kaleo would be the lead investigator. Let me also give you a small fact/ prophecy , the ordinary gikuyu embu meru aembu voter will vote Rutto 99% come 22. One reason being.. Kenyans love victims of hate. The more you victimize the man, the closer the people come to him Good example waiguru Winning by exhaustive / burnt earth strategy. Propoganda avenues are limitless but human tolerance is limited as well as impact. It works and it will work. Propaganda thrives on it's veracity and denial of chance to poke holes on the alegation made or denial of time to rejuvenate like desert brush on fire. Delayed redemption past intended impact point. Propaganda actually works. To counter propaganda is easier and more enduring by exhaustion thus creating a çonditioned resistive reflex action by constant unsuccessful propaganda machinations eg kimwarrer. Propaganda has always been used and will always be used to tilt and skew public opinion in an elective contest. Ruto is in the house to stay. That's a fact. Politicians are quiet since they are in catch 22 position. They are testing waters to see how deep it will go and once the dust settles which will be a long wait they will open up. What i believe the Kiambu community is positively in camp Ruto. Moses Kuria is just raising dust so that he can be running mate to WSR as long as he continues having big crowds in his merry go round outside kikuyu nation Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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freiks wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mpobiz wrote:Shak wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
A word of advice to the tanga-tanga supporters here. BTW I hope some of you are inside the network such that if your guy makes it to statehouse, you stand to benefit with the rest of the thieves and looters.
I have seen his foot soldiers directing their ammo at Kinoti. I doubt any of you have any idea the kind of brotherhood that exists amongst our brothers from the land of miraa. Let me paint a picture here. If there was a police roadblock at Juja and your vehicle is flagged down for speeding, and as the cop approaches your vehicle, your passenger who happens to be a Merian realizes the cop is a fellow Merian, the case is closed and you get away free. The only other community that exhibits such brotherhood is Kaleos.
Need I tell you what attacking Kinoti means with regard to the 6th largest voting bloc in Kenya ?
Kindly, let's not go there. Corruption knows no tribe. What kind of reasoning is this? The VP is not under any investigations. If you know of any.. please tell us. Further more I have not heard any where the DP supporters telling off the DCI. This are your own concoctions. Further more even the president said yesterday that we avoid ethnising corruption or public offices. The DCI office is not njuri ncheke so an attack on his office is not an attack on merus. If you knew how the DCI office works you would know that if there was to be an investigation on the DP maybe a kaleo would be the lead investigator. Let me also give you a small fact/ prophecy , the ordinary gikuyu embu meru aembu voter will vote Rutto 99% come 22. One reason being.. Kenyans love victims of hate. The more you victimize the man, the closer the people come to him Good example waiguru Winning by exhaustive / burnt earth strategy. Propoganda avenues are limitless but human tolerance is limited as well as impact. It works and it will work. Propaganda thrives on it's veracity and denial of chance to poke holes on the alegation made or denial of time to rejuvenate like desert brush on fire. Delayed redemption past intended impact point. Propaganda actually works. To counter propaganda is easier and more enduring by exhaustion thus creating a çonditioned resistive reflex action by constant unsuccessful propaganda machinations eg kimwarrer. Propaganda has always been used and will always be used to tilt and skew public opinion in an elective contest. Ruto is in the house to stay. That's a fact. Politicians are quiet since they are in catch 22 position. They are testing waters to see how deep it will go and once the dust settles which will be a long wait they will open up. What i believe the Kiambu community is positively in camp Ruto. Moses Kuria is just raising dust so that he can be running mate to WSR as long as he continues having big crowds in his merry go round outside kikuyu nation It's going no where deeper than meets the eye. Whomever who originated these stories played a bad card at the wrong timing. DCIO is least likely to prefer any charges against dp- a captain of an aircraft carrier has no qualms with a grey tiger shark cicling his aircraft carrier looking for free buies as is usual, but his divers must chicken out. The legal (elite club) arm can and will always act on hard incriminating facts. The rest is political noise making. The political elite has refused presence of hunger in country Kenya, then go tell it to gods dude. The elite club can only watch in awe. Kinoti was never a party to this, since he doesn't take instructions from the press, so is Haji. If you have facts go make a formal statement, otherwise we are enjoying media freedom and theartrics at best. This one too will simmer and dp, will definitely rumble again shoulders high. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Orengo to sponsor motion to impeach ruto. https://www.the-star.co....nt-motion-against-ruto/
Quote:Siaya Senator James Orengo pledged on Sunday to institute an impeachment motion against Deputy President William Ruto.
The Senator said the country cannot move forward with a Deputy President who is at the centre, any time a corruption case is mentioned.
ODM party secretary general Edwin Sifuna, who is also a lawyer, said they already have DP Ruto’s file ready for the impeachment motion.
"The seven years Ruto was in ODM were enough to know the type of person he was and that is why we were telling Kenyans that he is a conman" Sifuna added.
Sifuna said it has also taken his new friends in Jubilee less than seven years to realise the DP Ruto is a conman and that is why President Uhuru Kenyatta sounded a warning two days ago. He said no one — family friend or ally — would be spared in the war on corruption.
“As the ODM fraternity, we assure the President that we are behind him and the DCI in the war against corruption,” he added.
The ODM secretary general asked the DCI to stop "beating around the bush", looking for Ruto’s aide, and instead go direct and arrest DP Ruto.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Ruto's chances have been greatly diminished but there's still no viable opponent. Hii atachukua asubuhi na mapema.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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How come we don't have early opinion polls?
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2009 Posts: 587
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Lolest! wrote:How come we don't have early opinion polls? We have one already. If you have not come across it, this is it: 1. R.A.Odinga 10%2. W.S.Ruto 13%3. F.Matiang'i 2%4. Others 1%5. Undecided 29%6. Will not vote 45%Polls conducted from 47 counties with a random sample of 1000 persons per county and sampling at 1 subject per 3sq.km minimum ground area to 70sq.km maximum ground area.
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Baratang wrote:Lolest! wrote:How come we don't have early opinion polls? We have one already. If you have not come across it, this is it: 1. R.A.Odinga 10%2. W.S.Ruto 13%3. F.Matiang'i 2%4. Others 1%5. Undecided 29%6. Will not vote 45%Polls conducted from 47 counties with a random sample of 1000 persons per county and sampling at 1 subject per 3sq.km minimum ground area to 70sq.km maximum ground area. Election opinion polls are not useful nowadays based on Kenya's experience over the last 3 elections and Trump vs Clinton polls vs the real results. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Without Okuyo support and control of vyombo ya dola in camp Ruto, Baba will be the 5th President of Kenya for 7 years straight...wake me up in 2023. P.S. Remember that ring Baba wore on March 9 2018? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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A high ranking personality was exerting excess pressure for CS Munya (the whistle blower) to sign off Ksh.4b for the two dams in question. Now... it kinda looks obvious who the named high ranking person is as the DCI has to seek for advice on where to go next... I wonder if this is why the President went to meet with his deputy...
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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How comes nobody is talking about the trip across harambee avenue? I heard that it caused someone to have an epileptic fit somewhere in upperhill. Kweli au rongo? Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 454 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:A high ranking personality was exerting excess pressure for CS Munya (the whistle blower) to sign off Ksh.4b for the two dams in question.
Now... it kinda looks obvious who the named high ranking person is as the DCI has to seek for advice on where to go next... I wonder if this is why the President went to meet with his deputy... Uhuru cannot fight corruption. I believe he would wish to but the stakes are very high. If he fight corruption high priest, he will be doomed politically. If he doesn't fight corruption, he will go down as one of the useless president that Kenya ever had. Meaning he is doomed either way. I bet he will choose later, to go down as most useless president!!. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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TTT bloggers have been claiming this win. Now even TTT boss is out claiming the 2 seats' win as TTT wins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Lolest! wrote:
TTT bloggers have been claiming this win. Now even TTT boss is out claiming the 2 seats' win as TTT wins
2022 will be the Hustler Nation vs The Dynasty Despots. Wewe Itakuwa upande gani? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Lolest! wrote:
TTT bloggers have been claiming this win. Now even TTT boss is out claiming the 2 seats' win as TTT wins
Ruto's intelligence is questionable. Nobody became President by fighting everyone around them.... and 2022 will be about those for graft and those against graft. The thieves Will certainly be embarrassed at the ballot.
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Njunge wrote:Lolest! wrote:
TTT bloggers have been claiming this win. Now even TTT boss is out claiming the 2 seats' win as TTT wins
Ruto's intelligence is questionable. Nobody became President by fighting everyone around them.... and 2022 will be about those for graft and those against graft. The thieves Will certainly be embarrassed at the ballot. But as you put it who is ruto fighting? Is he not fighting the opposition? Or now you want to tell us your fellow guka is part of the current ruling class? Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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BTW, what is TTT's issue with Huduma? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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