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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Politics 101 - The poor and marginalised will always vote against the establishment/system. How do you expect them to vote for the "current system" when they have no housing, water, toilets, jobs etc? That would be like them voting to maintain their status quo ie impoverished state. That is why all slums vote for the opposition, and because the slums have the numbers the constituencies where those slums occur are opposition led.
Kibera slum - Kibra constituency ODM (note that the "rich" woodley ward of kibra has jubilee MCA)
Mathare/kiamaiko slums - Mathare constituency ODM
Kawangware slum - Dagoreti North ODM (lavington guys will always be outvoted by their kawangware neighbours)
Kangemi/kibagare slums - Westlands constituency ODM (wazito was kitisuru, spring valley, loresho hawazani na kangemi jiranis)
Baba dogo/korogocho - Ruaraka ODM
Mukuru slums - Embakasi east ODM.
Note that constituencies with no slums or very few people in slums are jubilee zones.
NB even in the west, the poor and marginalised vote for leftist parties eg democratic party in the US and Labour party in the UK.
So the ODM win in kibra was expected.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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In aza news.....Miguna is free to come back home now. https://www.standardmedi...not-illegal-court-rules
Quote:Raila Odinga's swearing-in not illegal, court rules
Former Prime Minister Raila Odinga did not commit any crime when he was sworn in as the people’s president in January last year, a court has ruled.
Chief Magistrate Stephen Mbungi ruled that the oath taken by the Orange Democratic Movement leader after the disputed 2017 presidential election was not unlawful, and that he would have only been held responsible if he used his swearing-in to commit a crime.
“From the content of the oath, Hon Raila Odinga swore himself to the office of the people’s president which does not amount to any crime. He would have only breached the law if he swore himself as the president of the Republic of Kenya,” ruled Mr Mbungi.
According to the magistrate, Raila’s actions did not amount to treason as claimed by the Director of Public Prosecutions and the oath he took was lawfully administered in accordance with oaths and declaration laws.
Mbungi made the declarations when he acquitted Ruaraka MP Tom Kajwang’ from charges of treason and taking part in unlawful assembly.
Raila’s oath was administered by Mr Kajwang’ and lawyer Miguna Miguna who was also arrested and deported to Canada.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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alma1 wrote:kingfisher wrote:radiomast wrote:2012 wrote:Mariga has lost but WSR has won big here. Plus he now clearly knows all his allies and foes, those that can be turned and the rest come 2022. How has WSR won? He had a very high profile candidate who didn't come close to winning despite significant voter bribery. Nauliza Tu. Am also wondering how!! All the energies and resources spent on a very localized area and see the results..... That is massive failure. Come 2022 and the countrywide need to spread resources and he will be toast. In fact if you ask me I would say that he has been taught a lesson here, and a big one. If he has learnt the lesson that is another thing altogether. And he has suddenly created some losers out of this... like Mama NYS must be cursing now. I want to remind people about system ya facts. William Ruto has never won any election in Kenya save for Mpig. That's it!! He is a hanger on who thinks he's too bright for honesty. Tell me one election William Ruto has won other than Mpig. Why follow him when it's very clear that every time he leads, his campaigns crumble. They were beaten kichapo cha mbwa in Kibra. You can't hide that even in the dark. What would happen if the name Raila is in that ballot box in Kibra and someone who's been stealing Kibra children playgrounds? Kweli mnafikiria kila mtu ni mjinga? But I want to encourage them to campaign for every seat in Kenya that is available. If only to spread the cash from Kimwarer. We now know the trick to employ for this fella. Let him campaign and promise him that he will win. He will pour "our" money back. On election day, chase them away like Khalwale. By the way, whatever happened to the fake Matiba Ndindi Nyoro? Watu wamechanuka. Kula kwa Mariga, kura kwa Imran. I want to see this repeated in 2022 against the establishment who have ran down our country. They will attempt to spread the money they are corrupting right now, let the people eat!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:Yaani a junior can call his boss's handshake a "con-handshake" aka handchieth? He should be fired ASAP. He is a disgrace to his mboss. Amemea pembe. Time to show him who is mboss.
I agree. This is careless and arrogant tweet!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani a junior can call his boss's handshake a "con-handshake" aka handchieth? He should be fired ASAP. He is a disgrace to his mboss. Amemea pembe. Time to show him who is mboss.
I agree. This is careless and arrogant tweet! 'Con handshake candidate narrative' isn't necessarily a disrespectful expression.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani a junior can call his boss's handshake a "con-handshake" aka handchieth? He should be fired ASAP. He is a disgrace to his mboss. Amemea pembe. Time to show him who is mboss.
I agree. This is careless and arrogant tweet! We should go back to the old days of the "Nyayometer" to gauge people's loyalty and if one is found wanting they are fired and expelled from the party and punished.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Its a con handshake, what did you get from it? Compromise? No official opposition? The Mwananinchi was conned. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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murchr wrote:Its a con handshake, what did you get from it? Compromise? No official opposition? The Mwananinchi was conned. You guys wanted Raila to cause chaos and be branded to be sabotaging Jubilee. He was way ahead of the masses. He has exposed the ruling elites ability. Baba ako mbele Sana!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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hardwood wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Yaani a junior can call his boss's handshake a "con-handshake" aka handchieth? He should be fired ASAP. He is a disgrace to his mboss. Amemea pembe. Time to show him who is mboss.
I agree. This is careless and arrogant tweet! We should go back to the old days of the "Nyayometer" to gauge people's loyalty and if one is found wanting they are fired and expelled from the party and punished. You have to comfort yourself, though he is always a soar losser. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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tycho wrote:Some of the assumptions and ideas being touted:
1. Imran will sustain his late brother's policies - like MP position will reclaim all relevant networks, intentions... (Imran is either the late himself, or an avatar - vicar?)
2. ODM zones must remain ODM
3. We should prevent any positive news on anyone challenging Baba and reputed to be a thief. All thieves on Baba's side are kosher
4. The outcome of these elections are the Kenya tuitakayo. Great summary boss! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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hardwood wrote:Politics 101 - The poor and marginalised will always vote against the establishment/system. How do you expect them to vote for the "current system" when they have no housing, water, toilets, jobs etc? That would be like them voting to maintain their status quo ie impoverished state. That is why all slums vote for the opposition, and because the slums have the numbers the constituencies where those slums occur are opposition led.
Kibera slum - Kibra constituency ODM (note that the "rich" woodley ward of kibra has jubilee MCA)
Mathare/kiamaiko slums - Mathare constituency ODM
Kawangware slum - Dagoreti North ODM (lavington guys will always be outvoted by their kawangware neighbours)
Kangemi/kibagare slums - Westlands constituency ODM (wazito was kitisuru, spring valley, loresho hawazani na kangemi jiranis)
Baba dogo/korogocho - Ruaraka ODM
Mukuru slums - Embakasi east ODM.
Note that constituencies with no slums or very few people in slums are jubilee zones.
NB even in the west, the poor and marginalised vote for leftist parties eg democratic party in the US and Labour party in the UK.
So the ODM win in kibra was expected. Wrong. Ours has nothing to do with being anti-govt. It boils down to ethnic politics. i.e. Which candidate has my ethnic lord's backing? The low income settlements are dominated by certain tribes If Baba was president, ODM could still have won
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Its a con handshake, what did you get from it? Compromise? No official opposition? The Mwananinchi was conned. You guys wanted Raila to cause chaos and be branded to be sabotaging Jubilee. He was way ahead of the masses. He has exposed the ruling elites ability. Baba ako mbele Sana!!! Why should he cause chaos? A loser should accept the will of the people respectfully and work to get to the top next time. The hand cheque has only benefited baba and cronies. You and me are just paying for it. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Its a con handshake, what did you get from it? Compromise? No official opposition? The Mwananinchi was conned. You guys wanted Raila to cause chaos and be branded to be sabotaging Jubilee. He was way ahead of the masses. He has exposed the ruling elites ability. Baba ako mbele Sana!!! Why should he cause chaos? A loser should accept the will of the people respectfully and work to get to the top next time. The hand cheque has only benefited baba and cronies. You and me are just paying for it. My crystal ball tells me WSR will end up like Njindo. High energy but will end up in failure. Some people called Kibaki General Kiguoya in 1992, he ended up as the successor to Moi. Success is for the smart and lucky, not necessarily the best. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Its a con handshake, what did you get from it? Compromise? No official opposition? The Mwananinchi was conned. You guys wanted Raila to cause chaos and be branded to be sabotaging Jubilee. He was way ahead of the masses. He has exposed the ruling elites ability. Baba ako mbele Sana!!! Why should he cause chaos? A loser should accept the will of the people respectfully and work to get to the top next time. The hand cheque has only benefited baba and cronies. You and me are just paying for it. My crystal ball tells me WSR will end up like Njindo. High energy but will end up in failure. Some people called Kibaki General Kiguoya in 1992, he ended up as the successor to Moi. Success is for the smart and lucky, not necessarily the best. Njindo is Raila. The person who is always highly discounted takes the crown always. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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