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Breaking News!! Makaburi Dead??
Rahatupu
#291 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:03:50 PM
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I have some gut feeling this Alphshaabab fellow is a mole in this forum, an agent for a terrorist cell... he is soon getting reckless and careless. Be warned......
tycho
#292 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:50:23 PM
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guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence... Pray
Don't go around using the Messiah as an excuse @guru. May I remind you that when 'the historical Christ' was around - if at all you believe in him - there was terrorism in the form of the 'Sicarii', there was 'Roman oppression' . . . there were all these things facing us today. Yet the Messiah was there, and he taught the way out was to follow in his steps, and to bear the cross. Now you want the Messiah to come and repeat the message? Or should he now come and transform our minds by force? There's no excuse for this religious 'nonsense' and crying 'Messiah!' at every irresponsible turn.
guru267
#293 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:10:18 PM
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tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence... Pray
Don't go around using the Messiah as an excuse @guru. May I remind you that when 'the historical Christ' was around - if at all you believe in him - there was terrorism in the form of the 'Sicarii', there was 'Roman oppression' . . . there were all these things facing us today. Yet the Messiah was there, and he taught the way out was to follow in his steps, and to bear the cross. Now you want the Messiah to come and repeat the message? Or should he now come and transform our minds by force? There's no excuse for this religious 'nonsense' and crying 'Messiah!' at every irresponsible turn.
@tycho you are very philosophical but when was the last time you opened a Holy Book?? The first coming of the Messiah wasn't for saving any group of people.. That's why he rode into Jerusalem with a donkey... He was just here to spread the Gospel! However when the Messiah returns he will be in a totally different light! It is said a baby will play with a snake without any danger... It is said there will be abundance in every land..... I CAN'T WAIT!!! Pray Pray Pray
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
tycho
#294 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:23:56 PM
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guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence... Pray
Don't go around using the Messiah as an excuse @guru. May I remind you that when 'the historical Christ' was around - if at all you believe in him - there was terrorism in the form of the 'Sicarii', there was 'Roman oppression' . . . there were all these things facing us today. Yet the Messiah was there, and he taught the way out was to follow in his steps, and to bear the cross. Now you want the Messiah to come and repeat the message? Or should he now come and transform our minds by force? There's no excuse for this religious 'nonsense' and crying 'Messiah!' at every irresponsible turn.
@tycho you are very philosophical but when was the last time you opened a Holy Book?? The first coming of the Messiah wasn't for saving any group of people.. That's why he rode into Jerusalem with a donkey... He was just here to spread the Gospel! However when the Messiah returns he will be in a totally different light! It is said a baby will play with a snake without any danger... It is said there will be abundance in every land..... I CAN'T WAIT!!! Pray Pray Pray
Holy books are read even by charlatans @guru. Others will use them to create terrorists and conflicts that have no end. What's the meaning of 'Messiah'? So if your words are to be taken seriously you hardly know what you're talking about. You're using the term as an excuse for maintaining the status quo. And by the way, how would you identify the Messiah? How do you know he's not here with us?
guru267
#295 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:33:53 PM
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tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence... Pray
Don't go around using the Messiah as an excuse @guru. May I remind you that when 'the historical Christ' was around - if at all you believe in him - there was terrorism in the form of the 'Sicarii', there was 'Roman oppression' . . . there were all these things facing us today. Yet the Messiah was there, and he taught the way out was to follow in his steps, and to bear the cross. Now you want the Messiah to come and repeat the message? Or should he now come and transform our minds by force? There's no excuse for this religious 'nonsense' and crying 'Messiah!' at every irresponsible turn.
@tycho you are very philosophical but when was the last time you opened a Holy Book?? The first coming of the Messiah wasn't for saving any group of people.. That's why he rode into Jerusalem with a donkey... He was just here to spread the Gospel! However when the Messiah returns he will be in a totally different light! It is said a baby will play with a snake without any danger... It is said there will be abundance in every land..... I CAN'T WAIT!!! Pray Pray Pray
Holy books are read even by charlatans @guru. Others will use them to create terrorists and conflicts that have no end. What's the meaning of 'Messiah'? So if your words are to be taken seriously you hardly know what you're talking about. You're using the term as an excuse for maintaining the status quo. And by the way, how would you identify the Messiah? How do you know he's not here with us?
Doesn't Messiah mean liberator/saviour?? This world is definitely in need of some liberating! Too much hunger, death, greed, immorality etc Sad Again the coming of the Messiah will be clear for all to see.... He will descend to Damascus with angels! It will be totally impossible to fake that! smile
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
alma
#296 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:35:30 PM
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Do people remember that this story is about Makaburi and he's 6 feet under? Human beings have been waiting for this so called Messiah for millions of years. I'm sorry to say but it has to be told It may happen, but after you are dead. He ain't coming back soon. That is if he was coming back. I'm a believer that malipo ni hapa hapa. And if you die before paying, you will pay after. But waiting for messiahs is rather a time consuming activity.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
guru267
#297 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:49:44 PM
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alma wrote:
Human beings have been waiting for this so called Messiah for millions of years. I'm sorry to say but it has to be told
@alma you say people have been waiting for millions of years... Really?? The Messiah was predicted by Isaiah in like 800 BC.. Thats not millions of years Shame on you The people's Messiah came to them in 0-33 AD The Messiah said he would return soon given certain events like earthqaukes, Israel chaos, global chaos etc etc.. Here we are in 2014 AD with the said events and you still want to deny his imminent return??
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
alma
#298 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:51:16 PM
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guru267 wrote:
alma wrote:
Human beings have been waiting for this so called Messiah for millions of years. I'm sorry to say but it has to be told
@alma you say people have been waiting for millions of years... Really?? The Messiah was predicted by Isaiah in like 800 BC.. Thats not millions of years Shame on you The people's Messiah came to them in 0-33 AD The Messiah said he would return soon given certain events like earthqaukes, Israel chaos, global chaos etc etc.. Here we are in 2014 AD with the said events and you still want to deny his imminent return??
It's funny how you agree so quickly with the right wing there was no evolution red state christian gang. But I'm patient. Let us wait.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
guru267
#299 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:06:16 PM
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alma wrote:
guru267 wrote:
alma wrote:
Human beings have been waiting for this so called Messiah for millions of years. I'm sorry to say but it has to be told
@alma you say people have been waiting for millions of years... Really?? The Messiah was predicted by Isaiah in like 800 BC.. Thats not millions of years Shame on you The people's Messiah came to them in 0-33 AD The Messiah said he would return soon given certain events like earthqaukes, Israel chaos, global chaos etc etc.. Here we are in 2014 AD with the said events and you still want to deny his imminent return??
It's funny how you agree so quickly with the right wing there was no evolution red state christian gang. But I'm patient. Let us wait.
Not to get religious but Islam does believe in evolution.. For example the qur'an does recognize an expanding universe, the big bang and the changing stature of Adams sons! We even believe that another race existed on earth before us that was wiped out.. (Think dinosaurs) We still believe it was God who caused evolution! And the evolution does not refute the coming of the Messiah.. We have proved self destructive as a human race and in need of a supernatural Savior!
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
alma
#300 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:16:48 PM
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Usijali Guru. Tuko pamoja. Hopefully I'll be around when "he" comes back. It should give you an opportunity to say, "that's the fellow who said, you ain't coming back" But I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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