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CONFIRMED: Ruto going to the Hague
Impunity
#21 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:59:48 AM
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sheep wrote:
I dont believe ruto is that naive...lazima he has a trump card up his sleeve... maybe he has 'hard evidence' that will implicate Rao and kibs... je kutaendaje?


I think Rao is sweating wherever he sits; Ruto make dem sweat.
MK is still not aware whats cooking here.
As I said earlier in Wazua Ruto may just pull a surprise in this Haque thingy.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:01:57 PM
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What if Ocampo decides to keep him there.......
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#23 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:09:41 PM
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I think he has decided to take his chances now. As opposed to ignoring the ICC then waiting like Bashir for an arrest warrant, he probably thinks he has a chance in hell if he goes there upfront, states his case and then gauges from his talk with Ocampo how thick things really are. Let's see how this unravels.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12:27 PM
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one thing is sure this Ruto has over-size balls!! Now he is setting th pace.

I see him reducing this 'over-valued' hague process to just any other. RAO cannot use it anymore to threaten his opponents. When this is said and done, then focus will shift from ICC to domestic issues.

For Ruto, RV in 2012 is what matters and there he has scored big time.
rasilio
#25 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:12:45 PM
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McReggae, he can't stay there yet as there's no prechamber session yet.

I know that newspapers love selling strange stories. But this one is far fetched to say the least.

Ruto cannot say, I was there when RAO told us to go burn children. I was only following orders. There is precedent on that and he will fry faster than you can say .

So remove this idea completely that he's going to rat out anyone. he can't as that will be implicating himself and I don't think ICC cuts deals with baby killers.

He got a letter implicating him. His lawyers looked at it and saw RED. They adviced him to give his side of the story.

I personally think it is a silly move and can only lead to misery. His lawyers know this. So probably the evidence against him is serious.

I have always been right on this forum and I will say this with no fear of contradiction.

The Hague is Real. And some 6 guys know that now.
Njung'e
#26 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:14:39 PM
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Looking for bail and then he can handle the case while out...BTW,was he carrying a briefcase?...lol

Suppose he decides to thicken the plot and tells MO all he knows about the planning as Isaac stated??Hmmmm.....That should worry a bunchPray
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#27 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:36:41 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Looking for bail and then he can handle the case while out...BTW,was he carrying a briefcase?...lol

Suppose he decides to thicken the plot and tells MO all he knows about the planning as Isaac stated??Hmmmm.....That should worry a bunchPray


Unless he has some hard evidence I don't see that one washing. Otherwise Ocampo can't be stupid enough to enter a settlement where it sill be his words against others and he goes scott-free.

If he has gone to bargain wont be surprised if it is that 'there were others and am being charged alone' school of defence that he has been on about in that obtaining matter which he wants to try with Ocampo.
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rasilio
#28 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:50:24 PM
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Kenyans are a very interesting lot.

I have seen a number of Kenyan forums and tweets and some guys are silly enough to say that Ruto is brave...or he's different etc.

lets' not forget what led Kenya where it is now. People died.

There is nothing brave about anyone who may or may not have created chaos in this country.

I have seen some OdM guys fearing what he may or may not say. What are you fearing? If ODM was involved in the death of children and women, let them fry.

Some Pnu moles 've talked to think its aimed at their "tribe". what tribe, if you killed women and children, Go FRY.

There is nothing heroic about these people in the list.

If he goes there and decides to yap about his comrades, so be it. Na wote waende.

Kenyans are the silliest people I have ever seen.
vinii
#29 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:00:13 PM
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'two more cabinet ministers plan to travel to the Hague to meet ICC prosecutor.....'

...and who could these be??
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#30 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:08:00 PM
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question is, assuming he came out clean clean, would you vote for him as President in 2012?

So except for "his" RV men, who else is going to fanatically follow him singing praises for him in 2012?
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