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Cicero
#21 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:57:56 PM
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I hope this will be the case for all of us with significant % of our potfolios on KQ. One or two of the significant investors in the US have talked against airline stocks, but probably at a time when US airline stocks were doing badly + they have not experienced our airline(read KQ) stocks yet. Good luck to all of us!
Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
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the deal
#22 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:06:53 PM
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@Cecero almost every airline in the World is reporting a surge in profits...even BA of all cases...overall KQ carried more passengers in 1H 2010 compared to 2H 2009...KQ earns 90% of its revenues from passengers...lastly KQ only made 164M operating profit from 33B revenue due to overhead i.e wage settlement.
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mwanahisa
#23 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:20:54 PM
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On this one, I have no illusions. If the results disappoint, we shall get roasted. I am prepared for that, it is a stock market after all.

But, I am wondering is there something fishy regarding today's trades. Over 500,000 shares on offer at 44 but the few shares on bid at 43 are not being supplied. Could the offers at 44 be a lure to bring out would be supply at lower figures?
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PKoli
#24 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:40:21 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
On this one, I have no illusions. If the results disappoint, we shall get roasted. I am prepared for that, it is a stock market after all.

But, I am wondering is there something fishy regarding today's trades. Over 500,000 shares on offer at 44 but the few shares on bid at 43 are not being supplied. Could the offers at 44 be a lure to bring out would be supply at lower figures?



Just the other day, there was a huge demand of KQ shares and there was hardly any supply. What has changed in KQs fundamentals to warrant such a low interest, huge supply and no buyers?
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Cicero
#25 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:21:42 PM
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the deal wrote:
@Cecero almost every airline in the World is reporting a surge in profits...even BA of all cases...overall KQ carried more passengers in 1H 2010 compared to 2H 2009...KQ earns 90% of its revenues from passengers...lastly KQ only made 164M operating profit from 33B revenue due to overhead i.e wage settlement.



The only confusing thing to me (i have no training in commerce) is how/when KQ is going to make profit from it's core business of carrying passangers and cargo (or anything else they do) other than the fuel hedges which to a layman like me sounds like musical chairs in a company not making any profits. I can handly call myself "an investor" in this counter but rather a "speculator" as i still dont think they are making profits in the "proper way" (read core business). BUT with @thedeal's reassurance i guess we have no option but to wait for tomorrow ...
Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#26 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:35:11 PM
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Cicero wrote:
the deal wrote:
@Cecero almost every airline in the World is reporting a surge in profits...even BA of all cases...overall KQ carried more passengers in 1H 2010 compared to 2H 2009...KQ earns 90% of its revenues from passengers...lastly KQ only made 164M operating profit from 33B revenue due to overhead i.e wage settlement.



The only confusing thing to me (i have no training in commerce) is how/when KQ is going to make profit from it's core business of carrying passangers and cargo (or anything else they do) other than the fuel hedges which to a layman like me sounds like musical chairs in a company not making any profits. I can handly call myself "an investor" in this counter but rather a "speculator" as i still dont think they are making profits in the "proper way" (read core business). BUT with @thedeal's reassurance i guess we have no option but to wait for tomorrow ...


Whenever you have doubts about operations, always check the cashflow statement, especially "cash from operations"
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sheep
#27 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:50:31 PM
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Seeing how the market is behaving,I doubt if it will go below 40(for long)even with poor results...so you are quite 'safe'.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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mwanahisa
#28 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:26:14 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
All the same, I am wondering... Over 1/2 a million shares being offered at Kshs 44. What do these guys know that I do not?

Anyhow, in for a penny, in for a pound. Today, I will purchase the last lot that I need to get to my target. This will bring my stake in KQ to roughly 15% of my portfolio. Let's see whether I will be crying tomorrow!


I kept on watching waiting to see whether the price would dip below 43 given the huge asks at 44. I had a small bid at 43 which sadly was only partially filled. So I did not get to my target but I am almost there.

I think the asks at 44 appear to have been a bluff. Else why did they not climb down?!

Now tomorrow beckons and all will be revealed.
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bss
#29 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:55:48 PM
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officially in the prayer group for this counter. kesho++
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Bugatti
#30 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:06:05 PM
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All=at what time will the Financial results be announced for KQ? Someone tell me
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