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chepkel
#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:42:26 PM
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@My 2 cents. Sikuhizi kuna Artificial insermination. Kama ile ya Ng'ombe. Unprotected sex sio lazima
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Noble
#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:53:01 PM
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@Chepkel
You can call it 'dry pine tree'
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wanjirus
#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:25:07 PM
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jguru
#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:35:54 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
P/S When a +ve female is seeking to get pregnant it entails having unprotected sex. So either she risks infecting another male or if the male is also +ve; they are mixing hiv strains, which is not advocated for the benefit of both.


Wrong! In-vitro fertilization (IVF) is done for a HIV+ve lady, who does not have a suitable HIV+ve partner. It does not mean she has to have unprotected sex!

Wrong again! HIV 1 is the major type of HIV found in Kenya, and in 90% of the world. HIV 2 is mostly found in male homosexual caucasians. What you mention, "mixing of hiv strains", is known as HIV Superinfection whereby a HIV+ve person acquires another HIV strain. This happens due to multiple sexual partners (from different regions of the world) or sharing of needles with persons (from different regions of the world). There are only 16 reported cases of HIV superinfection worldwide! It is an extremely rare incidence, and is therefore a moot point in respect to a HIV+ve lady preparing to have a child.
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jguru
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:44:24 PM
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slykat wrote:
@All

Thanks MaichBlack and Kusadikika for attempting to educate ignorant geniuses...

Am shocked that some peeps in Wazua as clever and educated as they are, are still so ignorant about pertinent issues about living with HIV. If the talk by some at Wazua is ill-informed, judgmental, stigmatizing and discriminative if not malicious, what of the man on the street? God help us and our 2million plus positive brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, and parents.


I am flabbergasted by the lack of HIV knowledge in Wazua. I am sure every member of Wazua has had a friend, relative, neighbour or workmate with HIV. How do we accept them as "normal" persons, if we do not understand the disease they carry?

And on a light note, Wazua Admins should, with immediate effect, organise a seminar on HIV/AIDS. And they should make sure they bring charts and diagrams, and those 16 inch wooden contraptions (and enough rubbers) for demonstration. smile
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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thuks
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:58:14 PM
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@ iguru
Full support on your last proposal (not suggestion)

Everybody has a percentage chance of siring an offspring who cannot thrive (genetic or due to disease) but we still do. life is God given!
I care!
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My 2 cents
#27 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:54:42 AM
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thuks wrote:
@ iguru
Full support on your last proposal (not suggestion)

Everybody has a percentage chance of siring an offspring who cannot thrive (genetic or due to disease) but we still do. life is God given!


Indeed. But when you have HIV you know for sure that there is a risk of tranferring it to the baby. Of that you have no doubt. The risk is minimised by ARVs but not completely eradicated.
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MaichBlack
#28 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:21:00 AM
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My 2 cents wrote:
thuks wrote:
@ iguru
Full support on your last proposal (not suggestion)

Everybody has a percentage chance of siring an offspring who cannot thrive (genetic or due to disease) but we still do. life is God given!


Indeed. But when you have HIV you know for sure that there is a risk of tranferring it to the baby. Of that you have no doubt. The risk is minimised by ARVs but not completely eradicated.

Some people are such big hypocrites!! All the guys talking about the well being of the child, let me ask you some questions. When you are planning to get your 'next' kid, do you sit down with your spouse and agree to have a full medical to check if you have any terminal disease or any disease that can be passed to your kid? Do you evaluate your life and say things like: Given that I normally have a couple of drinks and still drive, or given that I have a mpango wa kando, or because my job involves a lot of travelling, I have a higher chance of kicking the bucket and therefore I will not get kids just in case. If we were to be sincere, for one, no one in Nairobi should get a kid!! Chances of being hit by a stray bullet or being mistaken for Mungiki or some criminal or even being killed outside your gate are very real. Do we consider that before getting kids now that we pretend to be very thoughtful? Don't preach dihydrogen oxide and drink wine!
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My 2 cents
#29 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:30:44 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
thuks wrote:
@ iguru
Full support on your last proposal (not suggestion)

Everybody has a percentage chance of siring an offspring who cannot thrive (genetic or due to disease) but we still do. life is God given!


Indeed. But when you have HIV you know for sure that there is a risk of tranferring it to the baby. Of that you have no doubt. The risk is minimised by ARVs but not completely eradicated.

Some people are such big hypocrites!! All the guys talking about the well being of the child, let me ask you some questions. When you are planning to get your 'next' kid, do you sit down with your spouse and agree to have a full medical to check if you have any terminal disease or any disease that can be passed to your kid? Do you evaluate your life and say things like: Given that I normally have a couple of drinks and still drive, or given that I have a mpango wa kando, or because my job involves a lot of travelling, I have a higher chance of kicking the bucket and therefore I will not get kids just in case. If we were to be sincere, for one, no one in Nairobi should get a kid!! Chances of being hit by a stray bullet or being mistaken for Mungiki or some criminal or even being killed outside your gate are very real. Do we consider that before getting kids now that we pretend to be very thoughtful? Don't preach dihydrogen oxide and drink wine!

All I read in you post in concerns to do with self, self self. how about those to do with baby? Stop being selfish!!!!!
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Impunity
#30 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:43:23 PM
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