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Your Stocks Predictions for 2009
Morey
#21 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:36:00 PM
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Most recessions takes 12 months.It takes at least 6 month to realise an economy is on recession and 6 months to realise the end of a recession.So by the time people acknowledges that there is a recession,the recession period is normally half-way through and by the time people acknowledges the end of a recession period,realistically the period had ended 6 montgh ago.In simple terms,it takes 6 month to collect and annalyse data,and the data is always historic because it reflects the situation on the ground at that moment of data collection.

My take is,this is the best time to invest because the worst is already over.


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#22 Posted : Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:20:00 PM
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Regardless of what 2009 brings,the NSE has already bottomed up,or is starting to make a painfully long U turn.

I was watching bloomberg and to quote one of the experts on it he said ' It is never too early to arrive for a buffet' so my strategy is to buy,and buy all through the year.

The Kenyan economy still has alot of surprises (like KRA meeting its Q2 collection targets) so fingers crossed.

BTW @ Slykat good analysis

@Djinn,your writings are more impressive on such topics,leave the politicking to the ddsimiyu's and co.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
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Mr Green
#23 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 10:11:00 AM
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I dont think its that easy to pick a bottom and advice buying through out the year based on how low the NSE Index has gone,in 1990 the index jumped from 1000 lows to 5000 in a few years and then what followed was a quick correction down to 3000 and a further painfull correction back down to 1000.
Now i dont suggest that we are going to 1000 but what i suggest is that we have only seen the bottom of the first phase,it is characterised by people trying to bring back optimisim and hope that the worst is behind us and its time for sun shine,in short 'the herd begins to gather'. Just like when a bull market has topped people continue to predict further ups and in our case brokers and 'top analysts' sayed NSE will extend 6000 mark and go to 8000 mark blah blah blah.
So heres is how to play safe.
One: the market is not going anywhere so patience is key.
Two: Let market levels guide you otherwise all you will be doing is either trading in a sideways market or worse a down market.
Three: Market level to watch is 4200. If this level is broken and market starts to trade above this,then we can assume we have bottomed and the next bull run has began,one which i predict will break the 6000 level and go way up. In short a Bull Market is born.
Otherwise we are still fresh in a bear market and i will not be surprised if we see NSE at 2500 level which acts as a very good support.
All in all people need knowledge of how to trade financial markets and stock markets are not the only kind of financial investements opportunities. People need to seek enlightement.

When written in Chinese,the word crisis is composed of two
characters. One represents danger and the other represents
opportunity.
In every game and con there is always a victim and there is always an opponent. It’s good to know when you are the former so you can become the latter.
tony stark
#24 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 10:42:00 AM
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@ morey i agree with your advice but not your reasons. Our economy is not in recession .... yet(a drop of GDP for 2 or more quaters) it might go there in future but not yet. The drop in stock market value is not always an indicator of recession and in our case i think it was more a correction after foreign players withdrew.
We are a argiculture driven economy if the food prices hold and grow since the prices of food commodities have not been falling like other commodities well we might survive through though with very modest growth!!
I dont know where why you say that the recession only last for 12 months i dont know your source but the recession of the us and european markets will probably last longer and God forbid they go into a 10 year recession like Japan.
@ Mr Green i totally agree with you. I see you are still hold a high rank on the stocks kenya fantasy market..... number 3 with 5 million in stocks from a paltry 150k!!! Impressive. What exactly do hold in the fantasy market and when was the last time you even played?


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#25 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 10:48:00 AM
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So @ Mr Green

What is your advise for someone who has a little amount every month,

I say one should buy now,we all know how high the NSE has reached in the past and the perceived value of the shares at this highs. current prices are at discounts.

Secondly most of the money left in the market is now longterm positions,nobody will sell at a loss after waiting for this long.

It is not easy to predict when a market bottoms up,the best thing is to ensure you are in the seat when the ride starts.

Alternatively you can wait till the index gets to 6,000 then buy from those who are buying now,they will definitely be willing to sell.



I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
novestor
#26 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 11:02:00 AM
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The volumes and seesaw oscillations in this market are sure money makers,there are generally small volumes and extremely many opportunities for short hits at some counters. They drop to a certain level and supply dries out,this market has bottomed out no doubt.

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Mr Green
#27 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 11:58:00 AM
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@ tony stark: Fantasy Market is just but a good platform to help people understand the market,especially the emotional part,which i believe people have the biggest weakness,but since u asked i had a good run when stocks were splitting and i have held Equity since 07 and have never felt the urge to let go,coz of fundamentals since its inception.

@ Obi 1 Kanobi:
The urge to jump back is there,but when there is so much uncertanity in the market,CASH IS KING!! But hey this what you could do,i believe experience is the best teacher,since u dont want to increase ur liquidity get a certain portion from ur monthly cash and pick 1 or 2 stocks,if they do well i guess u gain more confidence and u continue adding and if the market goes up up and aware u cant say u missed out. But if it falls at least u will have sme cash left and the cash u have in the market can be ur determinant if the market is good or bad,ofcourse the more u loose the less u think of putting even a dime. Oh and by the way its easy to predict a market has bottomed,il give you two clues among the many:
1: the general mood in the public will change,and in Kenya people (common mwananchi) loth the NSE especially after Safcom and others did kini macho.
2: Watch company returns in the coming 1st quarter. If they are bad kazi itaendelea chini,if most of them are good then u can assume we are bottoming out.

Emotions contribute largely to an investors descisions,the majority of people are not able to make wise descisions coz they are emotional. But hey,without emotional people how can we get the best out of the market...?

When written in Chinese,the word crisis is composed of two
characters. One represents danger and the other represents
opportunity.
In every game and con there is always a victim and there is always an opponent. It’s good to know when you are the former so you can become the latter.
kishindo
#28 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2009 1:42:00 PM
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Back to the subject,this year till mid 2010 i be watching EA cables and Crown berger.
The recession has been a blessing in lowering international commodity prices(read raw material especially industrial metals) so maybe serious bargains for Cables n Crown.
The EABL exports are also compelling...what do u think?
happy hunting or is it watching...

less is more for Architects only!!
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megatron
#29 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:04:00 AM
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with the impending famine,fiscal deficit and massive lay offs in the works...I predict the market will go below 3000pts...I have also put a put a psychological bottom at 2500pts...there might be a mini bull in between but it will take quite a long time for the markets to cross 5000pts...maybe in mid 2010....but its still relatively safe to invest reasonable amounts every time the markets touch around 3200 and start selling at around 3800...learn to work with the trends...but hold some quality stocks you buy at a discount.Happy investing!
slykat
#30 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:07:00 PM
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Some of the predictions below and above have already taken shape..... looks like SK is full of economic prophets..

Lakini,lol! Murenj,when is your hurricane to be expected!

When buying shares,ask yourself,would you buy the whole company?
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